Community Tools User Group/19-May-2011
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- Adamburp Adamczyk (adamburp.adamczyk)
- Ann Otoole (ann.otoole)
- Arawn Graalrd (arawn.spitteler)
- bee Baroque (bee.baroque)
- Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval)
- DogWomble Dollinger (dogwomble.dollinger)
- draconis.neurocam (draconis.neurocam)
- Dresden Ceriano (dresden.ceriano) (User's Wiki Page)
- Yann (eddi.decosta)
- Id Koba (identity.euler)
- Jeremy Linden (jeremy.linden) (User's Wiki Page)
- Lexie (lexie.linden)
- Lisa Fossett (lisa.fossett)
- Luc Starsider (luc.starsider)
- Marianne McCann (marianne.mccann) (User's Wiki Page)
- Peewee Musytari (peewee.musytari)
- Qie (qie.niangao)
- Rand (rand.linden)
- Torben (torben.trautman)
- Venus Petrov (venus.petrov)
- Void Singer (void.singer) (User's Wiki Page)
- COCOON (wildcat.furse)
- Youri Ashton (youri.ashton) (User's Wiki Page)
Transcript for Thursday May 19, 2011
[13:03] | Torben | hi all |
[13:03] | Peewee Musytari | Aah! |
[13:03] | Venus Petrov | you'll let her know yourself lol |
[13:03] | Dresden Ceriano | hey PeeWee |
[13:03] | Peewee Musytari | BEE!!! |
[13:03] | Lexie | Hi Torben and Peewee and anyone else I cant see!! |
[13:03] | bee Baroque | drat! |
[13:03] | Yann | hi Youri and Rand :) |
[13:03] | bee Baroque | *snicker* hi peewee \o |
[13:03] | Marianne McCann | Rand is way too heavy to stand on my lap |
[13:03] | Youri Ashton | pokes peewee :) |
[13:03] | Rand | haha |
[13:03] | Lexie | Hi Luc |
[13:03] | Peewee Musytari | where are u hiding ur invisiibleness |
[13:03] | Venus Petrov | hiya Luc |
[13:03] | Luc Starsider | Hi |
[13:03] | COCOON | *meows* |
[13:04] | Luc Starsider | Am I standing on someone? |
[13:04] | Dresden Ceriano | hey Luc |
[13:04] | Lexie | Hi Dog |
[13:04] | Peewee Musytari | ooh Luc is here too |
[13:04] | Luc Starsider | Hi everybody |
[13:04] | Lexie | No you are not Luc |
[13:04] | Peewee Musytari | is he broken? |
[13:04] | Peewee Musytari | /me ** Loooooo00ooooooL ** |
[13:04] | Luc Starsider | I'm not broken |
[13:04] | Peewee Musytari | \o/ "YAYYYY!!!" |
[13:04] | Peewee Musytari | || |
[13:04] | Peewee Musytari | _/\_ |
[13:04] | Lexie | Peewee hahah |
[13:04] | COCOON | maybe broke? |
[13:04] | DogWomble Dollinger | hi everyone |
[13:04] | DogWomble Dollinger | hey lexie |
[13:04] | Peewee Musytari | heya lexie :) |
[13:04] | Youri Ashton | no amanda today? |
[13:04] | Arawn Graalrd | /me's broke, but not broken |
[13:04] | Luc Starsider | I might be broken. |
[13:04] | COCOON | lol |
[13:04] | Lexie | No Amanda or Raymond today. They are at a conference |
[13:05] | Peewee Musytari | I still can`t see dat Bee |
[13:05] | Youri Ashton | aww, they will be missed! |
[13:05] | Lexie | http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group for the aganeda |
[13:05] | Venus Petrov | Wildcat! xx |
[13:05] | Lexie | agenda* |
[13:05] | bee Baroque | sit peewee, please, you make me nervous. |
[13:05] | bee Baroque | *snicker* |
[13:05] | Marianne McCann | Repetitive machine noise iss repetitive |
[13:05] | Adamburp Adamczyk | i bet ray just want s to avoisd another bath |
[13:05] | Yann | hi Wildcat :) |
[13:05] | COCOON | hey eddi! |
[13:05] | Lexie | Ok, Ready to dive in? |
[13:05] | COCOON | /me grabs a leash! |
[13:05] | Adamburp Adamczyk | for thsie who missed it last week, raymond got dunked after the meeting |
[13:05] | Peewee Musytari | yus |
[13:05] | DogWomble Dollinger | /me grabs his dive tank |
[13:06] | bee Baroque | /me nods |
[13:06] | Lexie | haha yeah he did |
[13:06] | COCOON | lol |
[13:06] | Adamburp Adamczyk | °°° °° Bathtime! °° °°° |
[13:06] | Lexie | afk is dangerous |
[13:06] | Peewee Musytari | *throws bee in 1st to test water* |
[13:06] | Dresden Ceriano | while i got drunk after the meeting |
[13:06] | Dresden Ceriano | lol |
[13:06] | Yann | yeah lexie i know :p |
[13:06] | Lexie | Ok, first up! Updates: |
[13:06] | Yann | loll with jeremy its allways dangerous :p |
[13:06] | Peewee Musytari | question 1...who broke answers lol |
[13:06] | Jeremy Linden | Things Lindens learn the hard way at office hours: 1) Always sit on something. Always. |
[13:06] | Arawn Graalrd | Isn't this PeeWee's Play House? |
[13:06] | Yann | /me caugh |
[13:06] | Adamburp Adamczyk | Get to the Joppa! |
[13:07] | Lexie | Forums/Blogs and Answers: |
[13:07] | Peewee Musytari | hehe |
[13:07] | Dresden Ceriano | where's cyndi when you need her? |
[13:07] | Peewee Musytari | poor answers |
[13:07] | DogWomble Dollinger | rofl jeremy |
[13:07] | Lexie | We fixed the smiley alignment ㋡ |
[13:07] | Peewee Musytari | yay |
[13:07] | DogWomble Dollinger | ⓎⓐⓎ |
[13:07] | Venus Petrov | today? |
[13:07] | Void Singer | saw that... yay |
[13:07] | Dresden Ceriano | but not the iline images |
[13:07] | bee Baroque | \o/ |
[13:07] | Dresden Ceriano | inline* |
[13:07] | Void Singer | doh |
[13:07] | Lexie | We removed the comments form Answers. But, before you shoot me. let me say a couple fo things... |
[13:07] | COCOON | /me shoots |
[13:07] | Dresden Ceriano | they're still messed up |
[13:08] | COCOON | aw |
[13:08] | Lexie | I know Dresden |
[13:08] | Void Singer | ::bang:: |
[13:08] | Dresden Ceriano | okay |
[13:08] | Yann | /me poke Lexie :p |
[13:08] | Torben | don´t get irritated by my TNT bag |
[13:08] | Lexie | Removing the comments solved one issue, which was comments cannot be accepted solutions |
[13:08] | Peewee Musytari | aww as if we would shoot u...it would be stuck like that if we did lol |
[13:08] | Lexie | But it also caused another one from what I am reading from you on the forums |
[13:09] | Peewee Musytari | hehe a few yup |
[13:09] | Lexie | Would you say that if each answer had a reply button, things would be better? |
[13:09] | Lexie | The ability to quote? |
[13:09] | Peewee Musytari | yes definately |
[13:09] | Lord of Dee | Well it was getting confusing because you'd comment and then the comment wasn't showing up. |
[13:09] | Lexie | Right Lord of Dee |
[13:09] | Luc Starsider | They should definitely have a way to reply |
[13:10] | Lexie | I noticed if you hit the permalink a comment box shows up... |
[13:10] | Lexie | So..yes we need to look at it more |
[13:10] | Peewee Musytari | so the existing comments lexie, can they be turned into posts? |
[13:10] | Lexie | I am going to ask about that Peewee |
[13:10] | Peewee Musytari | whew |
[13:10] | Lexie | I know they are still there but not easy to get to |
[13:11] | Peewee Musytari | yeah we still have comment counts on our stats so they def went somewhere |
[13:11] | Lexie | But overall, we need to be able to mark all the good info you guys give as accepted solutions. Thats why the removal of comments box was important |
[13:11] | Yann | oh Hi lisa :) |
[13:11] | Lord of Dee | At one stage they were showing if you hovered your mouse around on Firefox 4.01 |
[13:11] | Lexie | Please continue to add feedback in the thread about Answers comments on the forum |
[13:12] | Lexie | I will keep an eye there |
[13:12] | Venus Petrov | Is Answers going to be renamed Q&A? |
[13:12] | Peewee Musytari | the comments on the OP were already hidden since the first change, the rest are all in same place now I guess |
[13:12] | Lexie | Also, we fixed the spacing related to some oddness between videos and text, paragraph headers and text. It nows spaces nicely..not all smooshed |
[13:13] | DogWomble Dollinger | 'smooshes' |
[13:13] | DogWomble Dollinger | nice word |
[13:13] | Lexie | ㋡ |
[13:13] | Yann | sorry i,m not very busy its just to stop the f.. masiv tp .. |
[13:13] | Luc Starsider | /me looks up smooshed in the dictionary |
[13:13] | Lexie | I also saw some problems with the way scripts are displaying. I am following up on that too. |
[13:13] | Peewee Musytari | smooshed is lexie`s new fave word hehe....she was gonna smoosh the categories too |
[13:13] | Void Singer | it's under S with skoce |
[13:13] | Lexie | Good feedback thread on that in the forums |
[13:13] | Void Singer | skosh? |
[13:14] | DogWomble Dollinger | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smooshed <- there you go luc |
[13:14] | Void Singer | meh |
[13:14] | Lexie | haha yes smooshed is a helpful word |
[13:14] | Luc Starsider | Sound painful, actually |
[13:14] | Jeremy Linden | Ehhh.... |
[13:14] | DogWomble Dollinger | particularly the last one :) |
[13:14] | Jeremy Linden | I don't think urban dictionary is the best source for this one. |
[13:14] | Lexie | ohhhh |
[13:14] | DogWomble Dollinger | hahaha jeremy |
[13:14] | Lexie | :x |
[13:14] | Peewee Musytari | lol |
[13:14] | Lexie | lol |
[13:14] | Marianne McCann | I'm with Jeremy |
[13:14] | Luc Starsider | lol |
[13:14] | Lexie | ok Im going to pick a new word! |
[13:14] | Void Singer | Lexie, so was that an internal change that borked code posting or a lithium one? |
[13:14] | Lexie | ㋡ |
[13:14] | Adamburp Adamczyk | google roger's profanisaurus |
[13:15] | DogWomble Dollinger | hahahaha adam |
[13:15] | Youri Ashton | talking about scripts, wouldnt it be good to have a database for scripts? so everyone just can check in there without having to look trough the mess with all other pages? |
[13:15] | Lexie | Void I am not sure. I am asking lithium to check it for us |
[13:15] | Venus Petrov | Lexie, is Answers going to be renamed Q&A? |
[13:15] | Void Singer | thanks... |
[13:15] | Void Singer | @ Youri, you mean like the LSL Library? |
[13:15] | Lexie | Venus, Im not sure Q&A would mean much to new users? WHat do you think? |
[13:15] | Marianne McCann | Youri - agreed. Never felt tht was ge best way to disply them |
[13:16] | Youri Ashton | something like that, but more organized, its a mess now |
[13:16] | Lord of Dee | Youri there's a special forum or Lslwiki.net has a good library too |
[13:16] | Venus Petrov | I think it would, actually. |
[13:16] | Youri Ashton | cant really find much at all |
[13:16] | Peewee Musytari | I think it may be a universally known term |
[13:16] | Luc Starsider | Q&A is pretty well known, isn't it? |
[13:16] | Venus Petrov | yes, i think so |
[13:16] | Lexie | I will see if we can change it. |
[13:16] | Luc Starsider | Most people know it. |
[13:16] | Dresden Ceriano | i endorse it |
[13:16] | Venus Petrov | Great thanks |
[13:16] | Void Singer | Youri, there also the wiki library.... which now has a categorized view thanks to... I forget who did that |
[13:16] | Lexie | Lets get updates from Rand and Jeremy |
[13:16] | Rand | Hey... |
[13:17] | Peewee Musytari | maybe more recognisible to non english speakers than the word answers |
[13:17] | Rand | Not too much to report this week... |
[13:17] | Rand | Jeremy is finishing up land articles and will soon be starting work on mesh docs |
[13:17] | Rand | I'm still doing some wiki cleanup |
[13:17] | Lexie | awesome |
[13:17] | Jeremy Linden | I've been updating various KB articles about Private Regions, and I'm going to start working on Mesh documentation soon! |
[13:17] | Jeremy Linden | Er, what Rand said. |
[13:17] | Torben | hehe, the tag team ^^ |
[13:17] | Rand | heh |
[13:18] | Rand | I did create a new portal on the wiki |
[13:18] | Youri Ashton | LL itself should start their own LSL library, its a lot easier to find for new residents |
[13:18] | Luc Starsider | Does that mean mesh is about to hit the main grid soon? |
[13:18] | Rand | a small one https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Resources_Portal |
[13:18] | Rand | Luc - I cant speak to exact timing... |
[13:18] | Youri Ashton | doesnt mean that the rest isnt welcome of course |
[13:18] | Lexie | I like the new portal Rand |
[13:18] | Rand | but "real soon now" ;-) |
[13:18] | Peewee Musytari | why do lindens like pitting "private regions" in KB lol...don`t they know it makes u giggle..especially "naming private regions" |
[13:18] | Luc Starsider | OK |
[13:18] | Jeremy Linden | /me doesn't know what the schedule for Mesh looks like, but will be talking with Nyx after this user group. |
[13:18] | Marianne McCann | Question on Wiki cleanup (not that one). noted the bay City page is now marked "obsolete. er, i t is still regularly in use. What makes it "obsolete?" |
[13:18] | Luc Starsider | Great! |
[13:18] | Adamburp Adamczyk | how far on is the reworking of the wiki? i've had soem real issues fidig stuff |
[13:18] | Rand | Peewee lol - never actually thought of that! |
[13:18] | Peewee Musytari | lol |
[13:19] | Adamburp Adamczyk | finding* |
[13:19] | Jeremy Linden | Peewee, don't forget "Can I rotate my private region?" |
[13:19] | Peewee Musytari | /me ** Loooooo00ooooooL ** |
[13:19] | Lexie | lol |
[13:19] | Marianne McCann | https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bay_City |
[13:19] | Rand | Marianne - perhaps it just needs some updating. If you dont think it shoudl be so marked, pls just remove the template |
[13:19] | Lexie | Maybe someone used the wrong template there |
[13:19] | Marianne McCann | Can do |
[13:19] | Rand | Adam - unfortunately, finding stuff on Mediawiki isa general issue |
[13:20] | Rand | ...since there is no real notion of hierarchy or navigation |
[13:20] | Lord of Dee | That list of deleted pages was scary |
[13:20] | Adamburp Adamczyk | okay rand cheers |
[13:20] | Rand | If you have specific problems, please let me know and I will try to address |
[13:20] | Peewee Musytari | kk |
[13:20] | Adamburp Adamczyk | but everything i searched for gave me the complete opposite of what i looked for |
[13:20] | Marianne McCann | Seriously, Ciaran |
[13:20] | Void Singer | lol you should have seen the moved list |
[13:20] | Adamburp Adamczyk | rand - send you that in im? |
[13:20] | Rand | Adam- bummer... send me examples.... not sure I can fix tho |
[13:20] | Rand | IM or Lithium PM |
[13:21] | Yann | Hi OO :) |
[13:21] | Rand | That's about it for us |
[13:21] | Lexie | Hi oobscure |
[13:21] | Peewee Musytari | is there a sound here or is it in my head? |
[13:21] | Lexie | ok, onto stuff you all added |
[13:21] | Lexie | That tic toc is in your head peewee |
[13:21] | Marianne McCann | It's here, peewee. Ended up having to mute the computer |
[13:21] | Peewee Musytari | lol |
[13:21] | COCOON | this->proposal to block 'buy/sell land and commerce threads' from appearing in 'Recently Created Threads', a forum is a place to discuss topics not to be used for SPAM ^^ |
[13:21] | Lord of Dee | There's a sound |
[13:21] | Void Singer | and just for the record, many thanks Rand |
[13:21] | Peewee Musytari | its loud |
[13:22] | Rand | yw Void |
[13:22] | COCOON | I hear it too peewee ^^ |
[13:22] | Jeremy Linden | /me can't hear it... |
[13:22] | Lord of Dee | Throbbing noise |
[13:22] | Peewee Musytari | yes |
[13:22] | Luc Starsider | /me cant hear it |
[13:22] | Jeremy Linden | Cany anyone identify the source? |
[13:22] | Lisa Fossett | Wildcat, I'd hoped that was brought up. I agree with you |
[13:22] | Peewee Musytari | industrial |
[13:22] | Ann Otoole | i had to block dogwomble cuz the pounding sound was giving me a headache. sorry dog. |
[13:22] | COCOON | ;o) |
[13:22] | Marianne McCann | AH, it's dog? Thanks |
[13:22] | Lexie | Wildcat: I hate to say I don't think so, but..I dont think so. |
[13:22] | DogWomble Dollinger | no probs ... i got rid of that last night anyways |
[13:22] | Void Singer | /me loves hearing from lookat postion... zoom out to silence |
[13:22] | Yann | what an headhache? lol :) |
[13:23] | COCOON | meaning lexie? |
[13:23] | Lexie | I will double check but I think it simply pulls from all |
[13:23] | Yann | sorry *sarcasme* |
[13:23] | COCOON | It is irritating to see appearing constantly the same spam threads |
[13:23] | Lexie | We might be able to come up with a different widget to use |
[13:23] | Lisa Fossett | The source may actually be from Dracons. I'm getting something on his foot that seems to be it... |
[13:23] | COCOON | from the same people |
[13:23] | Luc Starsider | I agree with Wildcat |
[13:23] | draconis.neurocam | if you want to know where sounds are coming from, on v2 at least world>show>beacons |
[13:23] | Lexie | right wildcat, I agree |
[13:24] | Luc Starsider | Perhas the commerce stuff could be separated out? |
[13:24] | Lexie | I will add that to the list to check on in more depth |
[13:24] | COCOON | I rather like to see interesting subjects in there |
[13:24] | Luc Starsider | Perhaps |
[13:24] | COCOON | forum is to discuss |
[13:24] | Lisa Fossett | The forum becomes a free classified if you let that in. |
[13:24] | Lord of Dee | Forum has many purposes |
[13:24] | Lisa Fossett | And it wastes resources. |
[13:24] | COCOON | yes but if you want to advertise ...... NO |
[13:24] | Lisa Fossett | and clogs it. |
[13:24] | Lord of Dee | Classifieds should be in there too, they used to be |
[13:25] | Lexie | I will take your feedback to the team and see what they come up with on it |
[13:25] | COCOON | cool thx lexie ^^ |
[13:25] | Yann | hmm, question like that on the new forum and blog, do you know .. when i click of the user name its could be redirected to the web profile link? |
[13:25] | Peewee Musytari | what happened to the request to bring back the New Products forum? are we getting that? |
[13:25] | Lisa Fossett | Sorryt, the sound was not on Draconis, it's on Dog's left foot |
[13:26] | Peewee Musytari | yeah the sound is dogwomble hehe |
[13:26] | DogWomble Dollinger | strange ... the scripting and sounds for that have been removed |
[13:26] | Void Singer | /me likes Eddi's idea.... it's been a popular request since before jive |
[13:26] | Jeremy Linden | If I recall correctly, looping sounds may not stop if the script is removed. |
[13:26] | Lexie | New Products forum.. I do not have an answer on that. Lets have that on next weeks agenda |
[13:26] | Lisa Fossett | need to scrub the prim |
[13:26] | draconis.neurocam | llstopsound has to be called i believe |
[13:27] | Peewee Musytari | kk ty lexie |
[13:27] | Adamburp Adamczyk | well, its not my onigokko] |
[13:27] | Adamburp Adamczyk | onigokko |
[13:27] | Void Singer | /me nods at Jeremy: you have to use a script to remove embedded sounds from objects |
[13:27] | Peewee Musytari | ahh silence |
[13:27] | Peewee Musytari | yay |
[13:27] | Yann | Void, its an # jira for this request or it not started yet? |
[13:27] | Peewee Musytari | ty |
[13:27] | Lord of Dee | It has stopped |
[13:27] | Dresden Ceriano | i'm so glad i'm noy wearing mine |
[13:27] | COCOON | ^^ |
[13:27] | Dresden Ceriano | not* |
[13:27] | Lexie | Yann: it will redirect you to the community profile. Thats as expected |
[13:27] | Lexie | Different profiles |
[13:28] | Void Singer | Eddi, I dunno... I just remember it being requested multiple times since the old forums |
[13:28] | Dresden Ceriano | maybe we could have a link on the community profile to your SL profile |
[13:28] | Marianne McCann | Indeed, Dresden |
[13:28] | Yann | okey lexie, cause now you have 3 or 4 different profile, they use some different server for notning :) |
[13:28] | Lexie | Interesting idea Dresden! |
[13:28] | Luc Starsider | That would be great, Dres |
[13:28] | Lisa Fossett | I daresay you could add it, if you can add a link |
[13:28] | Marianne McCann | So many profiles to manage... |
[13:28] | Peewee Musytari | ooh the old xtreet forum had that |
[13:28] | Lisa Fossett | should be opt in as always :) |
[13:28] | Lexie | opt in..good point |
[13:29] | Dresden Ceriano | true |
[13:29] | Lexie | Next up: When not logged in on secondlife.com, the link for Help->Resources For New Users should probably point to a more useful page than http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Featured-News/bg-p/blog_feature_news |
[13:29] | Lexie | Rand or Jeremy, do you know anything on this at all? |
[13:29] | Yann | jira profile, web profile, wiki profile .. blog profile .. geez |
[13:29] | Luc Starsider | Yupp. You should not have to be logged in to get to the info you need |
[13:29] | Lexie | I know its by design |
[13:29] | Rand | Lexie - that would just be a WEB jira |
[13:29] | Luc Starsider | And the featured news is not very interesting to new users, I think |
[13:29] | Peewee Musytari | blondin seemed to thin he fixed that but mine is still broke |
[13:29] | Rand | If its by design, I dont think its a good choice |
[13:30] | Adamburp Adamczyk | lexie, any word on last week's visit? |
[13:30] | Dresden Ceriano | something to look into |
[13:30] | Luc Starsider | Yes, it's still broke |
[13:30] | Rand | Suggest we open a Jira and see if we can get it changed/fixed |
[13:30] | Adamburp Adamczyk | whilst on about stuff for noobs? |
[13:30] | Lexie | I take that back..I could be wrong. Has anyone checked for a jira on it yet? |
[13:30] | Rand | I have not |
[13:30] | Lexie | Can you do one if it doesnt exist? |
[13:30] | Yann | okey .. hmm let me see what i can do on jira :) |
[13:31] | Yann | i can take a linden profile to do my picture add? |
[13:31] | Youri Ashton | that page at least needs to be a lot simpler and easier to use |
[13:31] | Lexie | Adam, no "news" yet |
[13:31] | Rand | yes, i could open a jira |
[13:31] | Lexie | great |
[13:31] | Lexie | Where is the preferred place for putting bug reports and/or feature requests for the community? User group, community forum, jira or what? |
[13:31] | Rand | Yann, if y ou could do it, great! |
[13:31] | Youri Ashton | noobs dont understand a lot of SL in the beginning, so yeah, rand, opena JIRA, this really needs a fix i'd say |
[13:32] | Adamburp Adamczyk | well i meant is did you pass it on |
[13:32] | Rand | i agree it should be fixed |
[13:32] | Lexie | I did Adam |
[13:32] | Adamburp Adamczyk | i understand doesn't ha[[en overnight |
[13:32] | Adamburp Adamczyk | thanks lexie - and thanks for takng the tiem to look |
[13:32] | Lexie | bug reports and feature request go in jira. |
[13:32] | Luc Starsider | The reason for the question is that I have kind of used the community for bug reports, and they do nto really fit there. Jira is the better place. |
[13:32] | Luc Starsider | But which is best? |
[13:33] | Lexie | If you are giving feedback strictly on the community platform, there is a thread for that available |
[13:33] | Luc Starsider | OK |
[13:33] | Dresden Ceriano | i think you should go to the community first, so you can get a handle on if it's really an issue or if domething's going on just for you |
[13:33] | Luc Starsider | I started to wonder, so I've added everything to the community. |
[13:33] | Void Singer | @Rand, that jira is about the login conditional page link? even targetting the logged on pages (which just sends you through an openid check) might be prefereable |
[13:33] | Lexie | If you are unsure, you can always PM me and I can tell you the place for it Luc |
[13:33] | Luc Starsider | OK. |
[13:34] | Luc Starsider | Will do |
[13:34] | Yann | what the component i can take for that? |
[13:34] | Void Singer | WEB I think |
[13:34] | Void Singer | SVC is that's been closed |
[13:35] | Lexie | Hi Identity |
[13:35] | Lexie | I think WEB too |
[13:35] | Lexie | ok next on the list: |
[13:35] | Lexie | Forum consolidation ideas from residents |
[13:35] | Yann | yeah , but the components , in web |
[13:35] | Peewee Musytari | it would be good if there was somewhere we could report patterns of occurring problems that look like they might be the start of a bug, so that people don`t get bounced back n forth from JIRA to support when neither recognise its a problem affecting more than one person.....like divorces where one name stays on a profile |
[13:35] | Venus Petrov | Yes, Lexie, I put the link to the thread in the agenda |
[13:35] | Rand | Yes, "logged in" sl.com is different than "not logged in" .... even different teams handle the issues |
[13:35] | Id Koba | Hi ㋡ |
[13:35] | COCOON | Hiya Id |
[13:36] | Youri Ashton | hey oob |
[13:36] | Lexie | http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Forums-Blogs-Answers-and/Forum-Consolidation/m-p/876807#M3978 is the link ffor forum consolidation |
[13:36] | Void Singer | oh... uhm... probably leave them blank.... they're underused for the most part, unless something sticks out |
[13:36] | COCOON | I liked Storm his proposal ^^ |
[13:36] | COCOON | to consolidate |
[13:36] | Venus Petrov | Storm started the thread..there have been several good ideas for consolidating subforums |
[13:37] | Lexie | I agree we should combine some of them |
[13:37] | Venus Petrov | there is such a proliferation that it is sometimes hard to know where to post things and where to find things |
[13:37] | Dresden Ceriano | i favorite is mine... hehe |
[13:37] | Yann | just take blog, forum wiki, and my secondlife.com :) |
[13:37] | Youri Ashton | hey identity :) |
[13:37] | Dresden Ceriano | my* |
[13:37] | Void Singer | lol a dres |
[13:37] | Lisa Fossett | Well said, Venus |
[13:37] | Venus Petrov | /me smiles at Dres |
[13:37] | Lexie | I dont think we can restructure the whole thing |
[13:37] | Venus Petrov | some might actually like an uber list but may be unwieldy for others |
[13:38] | Venus Petrov | so reducing the number of subforums would be great |
[13:38] | COCOON | you could SMOOSH it Lexie ^^ |
[13:38] | Youri Ashton | time for me to go again :) |
[13:38] | Venus Petrov | hehe Wildcat |
[13:38] | Lexie | lol wildcat |
[13:38] | COCOON | lol |
[13:38] | Youri Ashton | tnx for having me lindens :) |
[13:38] | Void Singer | never gonna let her forget huh? |
[13:38] | Lexie | Bye Youri! |
[13:38] | Youri Ashton | till next week! |
[13:38] | Void Singer | =) |
[13:38] | bee Baroque | bye youri \o :) |
[13:38] | Adamburp Adamczyk | bye youri, tc fella |
[13:38] | Youri Ashton | bye bye lexie :) |
[13:38] | COCOON | tc youri |
[13:38] | Peewee Musytari | bye youri :) |
[13:38] | Jeremy Linden | Smoosh: v. "To squash or mash" |
[13:38] | Torben | I gotta run too |
[13:38] | Venus Petrov | Lexie, since you've read the thread, can we leave it to you and your team to make the changes? |
[13:39] | Torben | take care all |
[13:39] | Dresden Ceriano | what happens is you're spreading the conversation too much, there's no place to go to hang out really |
[13:39] | Venus Petrov | righto |
[13:39] | Lexie | What criteria would a board meet to require us to merge it into another forum |
[13:39] | Dresden Ceriano | doesn't help build a feeling of community |
[13:39] | Lexie | ok Dresden, good point |
[13:39] | DogWomble Dollinger | lexie similarly themed content? |
[13:39] | Venus Petrov | Sorry Lexie, I don't understand the question. |
[13:40] | Peewee Musytari | someone posted another thread about renaming the scripting forum and making it more obvious too |
[13:40] | Dresden Ceriano | my avatar and fashion |
[13:40] | Dresden Ceriano | for one |
[13:40] | Void Singer | similar theme and low pocst frequency? |
[13:40] | Venus Petrov | right |
[13:40] | Lord of Dee | Well the sports guys seem to be happy talking sports and the rolpeplayers are happy talking roleplay, these won't interest that many folk so why not leave them be |
[13:40] | COCOON | Lexie while you restructure it ......... can you add DATING as a category? ->this to help the lonely hearts in second life!!! |
[13:40] | Lexie | Let me restate it. If a board only has x number of threads after 30 days..it should merge with another board? |
[13:40] | Venus Petrov | low post frequency is ripe for consolidation |
[13:40] | Venus Petrov | yes to that Lexie |
[13:40] | Dresden Ceriano | maybe so |
[13:41] | Peewee Musytari | yeah sport has been quiet...must be off season |
[13:41] | Lexie | I don't think we will do a dating area... lol |
[13:41] | Marianne McCann | Perhaps. THough I suspect some categories may not shoehorn well |
[13:41] | Lexie | right Marianne |
[13:41] | Venus Petrov | ahahahahah |
[13:41] | COCOON | well more and more people seem to post in that direction ^^ |
[13:41] | Marianne McCann | Lexie "Is my avvie hot or not" |
[13:41] | Dresden Ceriano | i was hoping for more... but i'll take what i can get... lol |
[13:41] | Venus Petrov | Storm will be disappointed! |
[13:41] | Marianne McCann | /me snickers |
[13:41] | COCOON | yes he will be depressed ^^ |
[13:41] | Yann | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-3872 , done here, but i need to complete after the meeting |
[13:41] | Void Singer | /me finds it hard to give a number |
[13:41] | Venus Petrov | He just wants to know if he can get that elusive date with you lol |
[13:41] | Lexie | thanks Yann! |
[13:41] | Lexie | haha Venus |
[13:41] | COCOON | lol venus |
[13:41] | Yann | welcome Lexie :) |
[13:42] | Peewee Musytari | land is a bit all over the place with a bit in each section |
[13:42] | Yann | sorry my english typos if i have some fault :) |
[13:42] | Lexie | I think Avatar and fashion could merge |
[13:42] | Dresden Ceriano | true peewee |
[13:42] | Venus Petrov | I think there was so much enthusiasm early on at being able to HAVE subforums...we kind of went overboard |
[13:42] | Marianne McCann | Agreed |
[13:42] | Luc Starsider | With fashion, you could be talking about creating fashion |
[13:42] | Lexie | I think sports and events could merge? |
[13:42] | Venus Petrov | yes |
[13:42] | COCOON | it is better to start wild and to end calm ^^ |
[13:42] | Lord of Dee | No |
[13:42] | Marianne McCann | /me nods |
[13:42] | COCOON | lol |
[13:42] | Luc Starsider | Shoud that still go in Avatar, or in content creation |
[13:42] | Peewee Musytari | yep |
[13:42] | Luc Starsider | ? |
[13:42] | Venus Petrov | you would know, Wildcat lol |
[13:43] | COCOON | haha |
[13:43] | Dresden Ceriano | no one uses it for creation i don't believe |
[13:43] | Lexie | hmm |
[13:43] | Luc Starsider | Ah, Avatar it is, then |
[13:43] | Qie | In fact... the same is true of Blog categories. It's not as if there's such a flood of blog posts that it really matters that they're categorized at all. |
[13:43] | Peewee Musytari | fashion and avatar seem more of a match than fashion and content creation |
[13:43] | Lexie | I think so too Peewee |
[13:43] | Luc Starsider | True |
[13:43] | COCOON | yep |
[13:44] | Luc Starsider | Just asking |
[13:44] | Venus Petrov | Sports/Music & Entertainment |
[13:44] | Dresden Ceriano | events/music and entertainment/sports |
[13:44] | Dresden Ceriano | lol |
[13:44] | Venus Petrov | si Dres lol |
[13:44] | Peewee Musytari | yes dres I agree |
[13:44] | Lexie | would that be too much Dresden? |
[13:44] | Dresden Ceriano | i don't believe |
[13:44] | Dresden Ceriano | look at the post counts |
[13:44] | Venus Petrov | /me agrees w/ Dres |
[13:44] | Peewee Musytari | is all related to stuff to do |
[13:44] | Lexie | I can look at the total numbers for those and see what it would end up being all together |
[13:45] | Dresden Ceriano | it calle all go under entertainment |
[13:45] | COCOON | ok we wait Lexie (while you calculate ^^) |
[13:45] | Dresden Ceriano | could* |
[13:45] | Lexie | lol |
[13:45] | Venus Petrov | look at it this way, too, it could save Mod resource from moving things around |
[13:45] | Lexie | ha! Thats actually true Venus |
[13:45] | Venus Petrov | fewer places to move to |
[13:45] | COCOON | cost savings!!!! |
[13:45] | Venus Petrov | YES |
[13:45] | Lexie | I see many "Moved" notices |
[13:45] | Venus Petrov | bingo |
[13:45] | Lord of Dee | You'll kill some categories if you merge them sports is very niche, it should have visibility |
[13:45] | Venus Petrov | exactly |
[13:46] | Peewee Musytari | i see the new name for feedback didn`t stop the multi posts in there...people just like posting there lol |
[13:46] | Lexie | SPorts is very quiet though Lord of Dee |
[13:46] | Venus Petrov | they see Lindens responding and wanna be heard |
[13:46] | Void Singer | Eddi, I hope you don't mind, I updated your feature request |
[13:46] | Dresden Ceriano | i'd like to see make friends and lifestyles combind but i'm willing to bet that won't fly |
[13:46] | Venus Petrov | even QUESTIONS get posted there..rather than under ANSWERS lol |
[13:46] | COCOON | sports is named wrong ....... should have been (sailing/flying/racing) |
[13:46] | Luc Starsider | They seem to do more double posting now than before |
[13:47] | COCOON | sailing is an extreme large community |
[13:47] | Lord of Dee | Yeah that's the point, people don't know they're here, I didn't know American Football went on here until that forum was created |
[13:47] | Venus Petrov | i agree w/ Friends and Lifestyles (for the rich and famous) |
[13:47] | Lexie | Yes, and questions can now be moved to Answers where they belong. You will all see some of that activity happening |
[13:47] | Lexie | ok, lets think about Sports, maybe leave it be and build up the description |
[13:47] | Dresden Ceriano | =Pvenus |
[13:47] | Dresden Ceriano | lol |
[13:48] | Venus Petrov | If the subforum descriptor says 'sports' people will know to post there or look |
[13:48] | Void Singer | I think part of the problem is skimming.... people see "Answers" and "knowledge base" and "feedback" and don't bother to parse the specific nature |
[13:48] | Venus Petrov | lol |
[13:48] | Lord of Dee | Or have a sub heading on the forums so people know what should go there and good point about sailing |
[13:48] | Peewee Musytari | making friends is a good one on its own...we get to send people there when they ask how do I meet people? |
[13:48] | Venus Petrov | Making Friends and Relationships...let them plunge in! |
[13:48] | Venus Petrov | /me laughs |
[13:48] | COCOON | and dating ^^ |
[13:48] | Peewee Musytari | eeps |
[13:48] | Venus Petrov | ahahahaha |
[13:48] | Lexie | Making friends is a fairly active board |
[13:49] | Peewee Musytari | I agree lexie |
[13:49] | Venus Petrov | Dates with Lexi should be a separate subforum |
[13:49] | Lexie | rofll |
[13:49] | DogWomble Dollinger | and the fact that asking to do the hoohaa is not appropriate on a pg sim? :P |
[13:49] | Venus Petrov | lol |
[13:49] | Luc Starsider | lol |
[13:49] | Peewee Musytari | they have cute little noob chats there |
[13:49] | Dresden Ceriano | i was hoping to consolidate the community a littkle |
[13:49] | Peewee Musytari | its funny |
[13:49] | COCOON | the STORM forum |
[13:49] | Void Singer | lol Wild.... yeah might as well teach em to swim by tossing them in with the sharks =X |
[13:49] | Venus Petrov | hehe |
[13:49] | COCOON | rofl void |
[13:49] | Venus Petrov | Wildcat, he reads these notes ahahahaha |
[13:49] | COCOON | I am candor ^^ |
[13:50] | Venus Petrov | of course! |
[13:50] | Lexie | ok, so lets put these ideas in that forum thread:Forum consolidation ideas from residents |
[13:50] | COCOON | ;o) |
[13:50] | Lexie | http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Forums-Blogs-Answers-and/Forum-Consolidation/m-p/876807#M3978 |
[13:50] | Dresden Ceriano | i have... i guess i could try harder |
[13:50] | Lexie | I will ask Raymond and Amanda to take a look there too |
[13:50] | Venus Petrov | How much longer do you wish to seek feedback before making some decisions, Lexie? |
[13:50] | Lord of Dee | How about advertising the forums too, you've tweaked and changed and people won't know what's available, give them a boost |
[13:51] | Peewee Musytari | someone wanted something brought up at the meeting and I forgot what it was lol |
[13:51] | COCOON | lol peewee |
[13:51] | Lexie | Id like to make some changes middle of next week if possible |
[13:51] | Peewee Musytari | who remembers the post? |
[13:51] | Venus Petrov | ok cool |
[13:51] | Peewee Musytari | hehe |
[13:51] | Void Singer | doncha hate that.... people do that to me all the time.... hey ask about xyz... |
[13:51] | Lexie | Lord of Dee, yes..we need to promote the forums and we are working on ideas! |
[13:51] | Marianne McCann | Agreed, ciaran. Give 'em a MotD spot or something |
[13:51] | Dresden Ceriano | god then we'll come back and tell you guys what other changes you have to make |
[13:51] | Lexie | good thought |
[13:51] | Lord of Dee | Good call Mari |
[13:51] | Dresden Ceriano | lol |
[13:51] | Dresden Ceriano | good* |
[13:52] | Lord of Dee | Where's Amanda? |
[13:52] | Lexie | conference |
[13:52] | Lord of Dee | ah good to know she hasn't left |
[13:52] | Lexie | I wanted to point out that we are doing polls every week on the forums. |
[13:53] | Lexie | Lets bring the fun back ㋡ |
[13:53] | Venus Petrov | yes i saw the first one |
[13:53] | Adamburp Adamczyk | i asgree |
[13:53] | Lisa Fossett | Such as, Lexie? |
[13:53] | Lexie | New one is up today and doesnt require you to watch 12 videos lol |
[13:53] | Luc Starsider | You should advertise the polls on the login screen in the viewer |
[13:53] | Adamburp Adamczyk | jeremy's challenge to be a streaker in ll offices? |
[13:53] | Peewee Musytari | oooh I found it...it was about ways to make the advanced mode default |
[13:53] | Adamburp Adamczyk | that'sd be a good poll |
[13:54] | Jeremy Linden | /me doesn't think the office would appreciate that. |
[13:54] | Lexie | Lisa, I think its great ..all the serious feedback and help and discussions on the forums. But, laughing is good too. I just want more of that!! |
[13:54] | Lord of Dee | Agreed Lexie |
[13:54] | Lisa Fossett | I agree...just hadn't seen it so was curious what it was :) |
[13:54] | Venus Petrov | Laughter is good for the soul |
[13:54] | Marianne McCann | Especially downstaies, jeremy |
[13:55] | Peewee Musytari | Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a debug setting for AdvancedMode yet, or if there is one it hasn't been published. |
[13:55] | Yann | Thank Void :) |
[13:55] | Lexie | The recent poll is a bit funny but I would love your suggestions for more! |
[13:55] | Qie | Okay, I'm a n00b: Where is this poll? |
[13:55] | Lexie | That might make a better jira Peewee |
[13:56] | Peewee Musytari | kk I`ll tell rolig |
[13:56] | Lexie | http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Forums/ct-p/Forums Qie |
[13:56] | Lexie | right side at the top |
[13:56] | Qie | oh! thanks. sorry, I was scanning for a thread. |
[13:56] | Lexie | We are almost out of time..and we did not get to the hub discussion. So I will leave that on there for the next meeting! |
[13:56] | Lisa Fossett | Funny, Lexie :) |
[13:57] | Lexie | : )) |
[13:57] | DogWomble Dollinger | i could add one sort of relevant option to that poll |
[13:57] | DogWomble Dollinger | "wondered why you can't cam aroudn a youtube video" |
[13:57] | Lexie | hahah |
[13:57] | Lexie | nice Dog |
[13:57] | Dresden Ceriano | oh lord I could tell a few good stories about the first thing alone |
[13:57] | Adamburp Adamczyk | "ever yelled onigokko in an rl queue" |
[13:57] | Peewee Musytari | can we post threads as polls instead of discussions? |
[13:57] | Lisa Fossett | Done that, Dog |
[13:57] | DogWomble Dollinger | haha lisa, as have i :) |
[13:57] | Lexie | You can, sure |
[13:57] | Lord of Dee | ah that's like when people post screenshots with scroll bars and I try and use the scroll bar on the screenshot |
[13:57] | Lexie | hha I do that too Dog |
[13:58] | Lexie | I mean Lord |
[13:58] | Dresden Ceriano | can anyone start a poll? |
[13:58] | Marianne McCann | /me has been known to try to cam around screen shots |
[13:58] | Lexie | no, only community managers |
[13:58] | Dresden Ceriano | oh okay |
[13:58] | Luc Starsider | Me too, marianne. |
[13:58] | Lexie | But you can do a poll thread style |
[13:58] | Void Singer | @PeeWee: there is a way to do it... I managed it on accident, so I'll have to experiment.... all basic mode does is use one settings file instead of another |
[13:58] | Dresden Ceriano | yeah |
[13:59] | Peewee Musytari | can poll threads be added with voting |
[13:59] | Lexie | I may also start some fun threads soon so..dont think Ive gone crazy or anything. Just bringing more fun back ㋡ |
[13:59] | Void Singer | /me welcomes fun |
[13:59] | Peewee Musytari | we like fun hehe |
[13:59] | Lexie | Anything esle before we wrap up? |
[13:59] | COCOON | yep ^^ |
[13:59] | Venus Petrov | People also think controversial topics are fun |
[13:59] | Void Singer | .... hi Fun how ya doing? |
[13:59] | Dresden Ceriano | fun is fun |
[14:00] | Venus Petrov | lol |
[14:00] | Void Singer | .... see |
[14:00] | DogWomble Dollinger | venus ... maybe a religion and politics forum then? :) |
[14:00] | Lexie | noooo |
[14:00] | Marianne McCann | Have fun all! See ya next time! |
[14:00] | Lexie | lol |
[14:00] | Peewee Musytari | any idea when answers will be fixed...days or weeks? |
[14:00] | Venus Petrov | yes! |
[14:00] | Lord of Dee | Definitely no |
[14:00] | Lisa Fossett | lol |
[14:00] | Venus Petrov | lol |
[14:00] | Dresden Ceriano | oh holy hell |
[14:00] | Venus Petrov | yes! |
[14:00] | Void Singer | bye mari! |
[14:00] | Lexie | Thansk for coming! See you all next week! |
[14:00] | Marianne McCann | Bye Bye!! |
[14:00] | Lord of Dee | Cheers guys |
[14:00] | DogWomble Dollinger | thanks lexie :) |
[14:00] | Venus Petrov | thanks Lexie et al |
[14:00] | Lisa Fossett | bye, MM |
[14:00] | Qie | thanks Lexie |
[14:00] | Luc Starsider | Bye everybody |
[14:00] | COCOON | bye everyone ;o) |
[14:00] | Lexie | Bye for now ㋡ |
[14:00] | Peewee Musytari | thanks lexie ...good meeting |
[14:01] | Jeremy Linden | Rand, you got the transcript? |
[14:01] | Rand | Byall all |
[14:01] | Rand | yep i got it jeremy |
[14:01] | Venus Petrov | takes care not to step on beeeee |
[14:01] | Dresden Ceriano | thanks =)~ |
[14:01] | Peewee Musytari | ty rand & jeremy too :) |