Beta Server Office Hours/Minutes/2012-04-19

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This meeting was held on April 19, 2012

Agenda

Updates

  • There was no main channel release this week.
    • Avatar fly height was changed to 5000 on the RC's.
    • We used the new method for updating simulator configs





  • Falcon / PathFinding

Upcoming Stuff

Interesting Stuff


Transcript

Transcript of Oskar Linden's Server Beta User Group for April 19, 2012:

  • [15:00] SonicAnd Miles: sup oskar
  • [15:00] FadeOut Razorfen: oh hai
  • [15:00] Oskar Linden: wassup everyone!
  • [15:00] Kallista Destiny: Avw Oskar
  • [15:00] SonicAnd Miles: orion is scared of your chair
  • [15:01] SonicAnd Miles: lol
  • [15:01] Oskar Linden: I've gotta get things situated here for a few minutes
  • [15:01] Oskar Linden: I'll let you all get settled while we let people arrive
  • [15:02] MartinRJ Fayray: hello Oskar
  • [15:02] Grid Crash Protection Box: Sovereign Engineer, you are now shielded from the effects of any Grid crashes which might occur!
  • [15:03] Grid Crash Protection Box: Sovereign Engineer, you are now shielded from the effects of any Grid crashes which might occur!
  • [15:03] Grid Crash Protection Box: Sovereign Engineer, you are now shielded from the effects of any Grid crashes which might occur!
  • [15:03] Motor LoonMotor Loon picks up the Crash Protection Box and shakes it violently...
  • [15:03] Theresa Tennyson: HI Oskar!
  • [15:04] Oskar Linden: ok! there we go
  • [15:04] Oskar Linden: I'm in San Francisco this week
  • [15:04] Oskar Linden: that means I have a lot of face to face meetings
  • [15:04] Theresa Tennyson: I'm sorry...
  • [15:05] Theresa Tennyson: Meetings, that is...
  • [15:05] FadeOut RazorfenFadeOut Razorfen enjoys living in the middle of frozen wastes
  • [15:05] Ima Mechanique: sorry I'm late, did I miss much?
  • [15:05] Moundsa Mayo: Hard to blame the connection and drop out when face to face if the meeting gets old.
  • [15:05] Homeless: Can always go to the bathroom
  • [15:06] Kallista Destiny: an extended trip.
  • [15:06] Moundsa Mayo: In another building ...
  • [15:06] Oskar Linden: you should find this funny
  • [15:06] Oskar Linden: hah
  • [15:06] Oskar Linden: I'm actually in a meeting RIGHT NOW
  • [15:06] Oskar Linden: and meeting with you here
  • [15:06] Oskar Linden: wow
  • [15:06] Oskar Linden: heh
  • [15:06] Kallista Destiny: Multi-task much
  • [15:06] Motor Loon: Wonders of the modern day eh
  • [15:06] Oskar Linden: the idea of this kinda cracks me up
  • [15:07] Oskar Linden: this is a meeting for learning our new testing automation framework stuff
  • [15:07] Rex Cronon: greetings everybody
  • [15:07] Oskar Linden: I want to make sure I can learn about it
  • [15:07] Oskar Linden: but you are all important to me as well
  • [15:07] Oskar Linden: so everyone has to share Oskar today
  • [15:07] Oskar Linden: :-)
  • [15:07] Motor Loon: so... what you are saying is... that you RL meeting is pretty damn boring and you now sitting there pretending to be on Morris
  • [15:07] Oskar Linden: so how is everyone today?
  • [15:07] FadeOut Razorfen: drunk
  • [15:08] Oskar Linden: already?
  • [15:08] FadeOut Razorfen: yes.
  • [15:08] Rex Cronon: still kicking:)
  • [15:08] FadeOut Razorfen: thanks for asking c:
  • [15:08] SonicAnd Miles: im doin good since maestro fixed my sim lol
  • [15:08] Motor Loon: I'm still on coffee... unless this meeting gets boring too...
  • [15:08] Oskar Linden: maestro is awesome
  • [15:08] Oskar Linden: cool
  • [15:08] MartinRJ Fayray: a bit upset because someone deleted about 100 pages from the sl- wiki
  • [15:08] SonicAnd Miles: fly broke lol
  • [15:08] Oskar Linden: well it is good to see you all today
  • [15:09] Rex Cronon: how about u oskar? multitasking?
  • [15:09] Oskar Linden: yeah
  • [15:09] Oskar Linden: it's all good
  • [15:09] MartinRJ Fayray: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-4675?
  • [15:09] Flame of Jira: [#WEB-4675] Wiki: Deny all content deletion requests made by Kira Komarov and restore all content https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-4675
  • [15:09] Oskar Linden: I have two brains
  • [15:09] Motor Loon: women multitask... men pretend to multitask
  • [15:09] SonicAnd Miles: isnt he the multitasking pro with 2 brains?
  • [15:09] Oskar Linden: here is the agenda: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group
  • [15:09] Oskar Linden: this week went fairly smoothly
  • [15:10] Chieron Tenk: men use the second task for pretending to multitask..
  • [15:10] Fancy Greeter: Maestro Linden has arrived!
  • [15:10] Oskar Linden: because of the sanfu's last week we had no RC code ready for promotion to main channel
  • [15:10] Oskar Linden: s/sanfu/snafu/
  • [15:10] Oskar Linden: so Tuesday was a fairly easy day
  • [15:10] Oskar Linden: Welcome Maestro
  • [15:10] Kallista Destiny: we *all* read typo
  • [15:10] Oskar Linden: maestro are you coming to the vita meeting IRL with me as well?
  • [15:10] Rex Cronon: i am cursive in it:)
  • [15:10] Maestro Linden: hello everybody
  • [15:11] Rex Cronon: hi maestro
  • [15:11] Maestro Linden: No, I have to do some other multitasking
  • [15:11] SonicAnd Miles: hey Maestro, thanks for earlier :p
  • [15:11] Oskar Linden: maestro is a better multitasker than I am
  • [15:11] Motor Loon: ha!
  • [15:11] Oskar Linden: he's younger
  • [15:11] Maestro Linden: sure thing :)
  • [15:11] Motor Loon: Maestro KNOW it's a boring meeting
  • [15:11] Oskar Linden: actually it isn't a bring meeting
  • [15:11] Motor Loon: he'll stay in the bathroom with his laptop
  • [15:11] Oskar Linden: boring
  • [15:11] Oskar Linden: hah
  • [15:11] Oskar Linden: I R TYPOZ
  • [15:12] Oskar Linden: so yeah no main channel deploy this week
  • [15:12] Oskar Linden: The RC's got used for two purposes this week
  • [15:12] Motor Loon: but atleast magnum is interesting!
  • [15:12] Oskar Linden: they got updated code
  • [15:12] Kallista Destiny: all meetings where there is no bloodshed are boring, for some value of bring.
  • [15:12] SonicAnd Miles: magnum is awesome this week!
  • [15:12] Oskar Linden: and a test of our new poller mechanism
  • [15:12] Oskar Linden: BlueSteel and LeTigre have Inventory API changes
  • [15:12] Oskar Linden: Improvements were made to the way inventory transactions are handled in order to improve scalability and reliability of inventory transfers.
  • [15:13] Oskar Linden: has anyone seen any inv related issues on BlueSteel or LeTigre?
  • [15:13] FadeOut Razorfen: so more then 42 or smth could be transfered ?
  • [15:13] Oskar Linden: if you have please let me know
  • [15:13] FadeOut Razorfen: i mean items at the same time
  • [15:13] Oskar Linden: I know it's only been up for a day or so
  • [15:13] Oskar Linden: You all have more eyes and ears than I do
  • [15:13] Rex Cronon: improve scalability?
  • [15:13] Oskar Linden: so I appreciate your unique abilities
  • [15:14] Rex Cronon: new types of inventory items?
  • [15:14] Oskar Linden: this weekend keep an eye/ear out for hints of INV issues on BlueSteel or LeTigre
  • [15:14] Motor Loon: well, I haven't heard any whining... which in itself is kinda disturbing
  • [15:14] Rex Cronon: web editing of inventory?
  • [15:14] Oskar Linden: if you find something you think might be an issue verify the repro steps against main channel
  • [15:14] TankMaster Finesmith: in my testing, fade, the the viewer can actually send up to 70 items at once, Im not sure why its limiting to 42
  • [15:15] Kallista Destiny: Cheeky Douglas Adams reference?
  • [15:15] Oskar Linden: if main channel works and BlueSteel and LeTigre are performing incorrectly then we have an issue
  • [15:15] Oskar Linden: it is cheeky
  • [15:15] FadeOut Razorfen: oskar we don't have any idea about what's being changed... how are we supposed to test it ?
  • [15:15] Oskar Linden: but I like cheeky nerd references
  • [15:15] Motor Loon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_(number)
  • [15:15] Motor Loon: thats why
  • [15:15] SonicAnd Miles: XD
  • [15:15] TankMaster Finesmith: theres a comment in the code saying its redusing it to add some padding, which is fine, but dropping it by 2/3s seems excessive
  • [15:15] FadeOut Razorfen: Improvements were made to the way inventory transactions are handled in order to improve scalability and reliability of inventory transfers.
  • [15:15] Oskar Linden: I'm not asking you to 'test it'
  • [15:15] Rex Cronon: imo the new flight limit might lead to an increase of unwanted orbits:)
  • [15:15] Oskar Linden: I'm asking you to tell me if things are acting wrong
  • [15:15] FadeOut Razorfen: oh, k
  • [15:15] Theresa Tennyson: Itsn't the inventory change the one that broke RLV a few weeks ago?
  • [15:15] Oskar Linden: because you guys can see things I can't
  • [15:16] Oskar Linden: it was INV related IIRC Theresa
  • [15:16] Oskar Linden: so that's BlueSteel and LeTigre
  • [15:16] Draconis Neurocam: someone was mentioning getting a return of LINDENDOLLAR_BADCLOCKSKEW from the transaction_result event, that result is undocumented
  • [15:16] Oskar Linden: we will more than likely promote that code next week if it is bug free
  • [15:16] Kallista Destiny: No thst was DD and Recieved Inventory
  • [15:16] Oskar Linden: that's weird Drac
  • [15:17] Oskar Linden: well, 'INV related" for some definitions of INV
  • [15:17] Oskar Linden: Magnum has maint-server fixes
  • [15:17] Oskar Linden: is Caleb here?
  • [15:17] Oskar LindenOskar Linden peers around
  • [15:17] Flip Idlemind: So likely 2 weeks minimum for llGetAgentList() on main channel? T_T
  • [15:17] Oskar Linden: probably
  • [15:17] Oskar Linden: patience young padawan
  • [15:18] Motor Loon: yeah, we've waiting for this many years, we can do two more weeks °͜°
  • [15:18] Ima Mechanique: any chance PRIM_SLICE can be documented on the portal? ;-)
  • [15:18] Oskar Linden: Thanks Motor
  • [15:18] Oskar Linden: oh is it not yet?
  • [15:18] Ima Mechanique: nope
  • [15:18] Oskar Linden: I missed that
  • [15:18] Oskar Linden: hmm
  • [15:18] Oskar Linden: let me ping someone on that real quick
  • [15:19] Ima Mechanique: I haven't checked the llGetRegionAgents constants yet
  • [15:19] FadeOut Razorfen: strife onizuka, let me guess
  • [15:19] Ima Mechanique: but there are no links on the function's page either
  • [15:20] Oskar Linden: if anyone wants to get a blanket page up there now using the last few weeks UG transcripts it would be much appreciated
  • [15:20] Oskar Linden: I know Kelly has talked about it a lot recently
  • [15:20] Oskar Linden: I pinged Caleb to put it on his radar
  • [15:20] Ima Mechanique: I don't even know how to. My Wiki-fu is non-existant :-(
  • [15:21] Oskar Linden: it's not that hard
  • [15:21] Oskar Linden: it's just a few simple syntaxes
  • [15:21] Ima Mechanique: and templates I've been told ;-)
  • [15:22] Draconis Neurocam: lots of templates
  • [15:22] Oskar Linden: you can view the wiki source easily
  • [15:22] Ima Mechanique: I've *tried* to add pages before, failed abominally
  • [15:22] Oskar Linden: find an existing page and cut and paste is a good way to get started
  • [15:22] Fancy Greeter: Falcon Linden has arrived!
  • [15:22] Rex Cronon: do we need special permissions to add/edit pages there?
  • [15:22] SonicAnd Miles: the Falcon has arrived
  • [15:23] Nalates Urriah: I stop at templates.
  • [15:23] Oskar Linden: we've been talking about the changes on Magnum for a few weeks now
  • [15:23] Oskar Linden: there aren't any surprises there
  • [15:24] Rex Cronon: i think i know what we need: a new button "add new lsl function" that opens a page where u enter the function name, attributes, return values, and all the necessary descriptions:)
  • [15:24] Motor Loon: what happens if the script dont have enough free memory for the keys returned, lets say in a sim with 70+ avatars?
  • [15:24] FadeOut Razorfen: shc
  • [15:24] FadeOut Razorfen: probably lol
  • [15:25] Oskar Linden: we have a few bugs fixed on Magnum
  • [15:25] Oskar Linden: SCR-15

SVC-680 SVC-5488 SVC-6894 SVC-7307

  • [15:25] Flame of Jira: Status 499
  • [15:25] Oskar Linden: hah
  • [15:25] Oskar Linden: fail
  • [15:25] Oskar Linden: SCR-15
  • [15:25] Flame of Jira: [#SCR-15] Add flag parameter [vector slice] to llSetPrimitiveParams PRIM_TYPE flags PRIM_TYPE_BOX, PRIM_TYPE_CYLINDER, and PRIM_TYPE_PRISM https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SCR-15
  • [15:25] Oskar Linden: one at a time I forgot
  • [15:25] SonicAnd Miles: u broke it
  • [15:25] Oskar Linden: SVC-680
  • [15:25] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-680] Increase HTTP Response body size from 2048 to 4096 or larger https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-680
  • [15:25] Motor Loon: too much multitasking
  • [15:25] Oskar Linden: SVC-5488
  • [15:25] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-5488] llGetRegionAgents() -- returns list of agent keys in the current region https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5488
  • [15:25] Oskar Linden: SVC-6894
  • [15:25] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-6894] Excessive EnableSimulator message spamming to viewers https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-6894
  • [15:25] Oskar Linden: SVC-7307
  • [15:25] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-7307] creation of scripts gets a nice error https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-7307
  • [15:25] Motor Loon: Flame Of Jira is clearly MALE
  • [15:26] Kallista Destiny: lols
  • [15:26] SonicAnd Miles: and svc-7842
  • [15:26] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-7842] BROKE Flight Restriction on RC Magnum https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-7842
  • [15:26] Oskar Linden: huh?
  • [15:26] SonicAnd Miles: Maestro knows of it :)
  • [15:26] Oskar Linden: well he said AND
  • [15:27] Oskar Linden: like it was fixed on Magnum
  • [15:27] Oskar Linden: those were the JIRA's I was describing
  • [15:27] Oskar Linden: not the new bugs that might have been found on Magnum
  • [15:27] SonicAnd Miles: o.O
  • [15:27] Oskar Linden: confused me
  • [15:27] SonicAnd Miles: ill shutup now lol
  • [15:27] Oskar Linden: :-p
  • [15:27] Flip Idlemind: What exactly does "creation of scripts gets a nice error" mean?
  • [15:28] Motor Loon: lol
  • [15:28] Flip Idlemind: Like, "script creation failed, but have a nice day"?
  • [15:28] Kallista Destiny: "We already have one"
  • [15:28] Oskar Linden: so yeah
  • [15:28] Oskar Linden: those are the code releases
  • [15:28] Oskar Linden: THEN
  • [15:28] Oskar Linden: we had another step we did
  • [15:28] Motor Loon: dadaaa
  • [15:29] Rex Cronon: does it say: please call the closest lsl help center. a grid monkey will be with u right away;)
  • [15:29] Oskar Linden: we attempted to use our new sim config polling thing
  • [15:29] Oskar Linden: which is AWESOME!
  • [15:29] Motor Loon: hehe
  • [15:29] Motor Loon: Oskar is excited
  • [15:29] Oskar Linden: we can tweak sim configs without an entire release thing
  • [15:29] Oskar Linden: it's great
  • [15:29] Oskar Linden: and will help a lot
  • [15:29] Flip Idlemind: You couldn't do that before?
  • [15:29] Kallista Destiny: Oh!!!!
  • [15:30] Oskar Linden: before it took some work and wouldn't work if a machine was down
  • [15:30] Oskar Linden: it had drawbacks
  • [15:30] Oskar Linden: this process is slick
  • [15:30] Rex Cronon: u mean that now the sim server can read and parse an ini file?
  • [15:30] Oskar Linden: so we used it to change the avatar fly height
  • [15:30] Oskar Linden: not really Rex
  • [15:30] Oskar Linden: now all of the RC's have their avatar fly height set to 5000
  • [15:31] Flip Idlemind: Do you send a message to sims that says "check for updates" rather than one that says "this is the update"
  • [15:31] Kallista Destiny: You can chane things w/o rebooting the region thhen?
  • [15:31] Oskar Linden: except for SonicAnd's region :-)
  • [15:31] SonicAnd Miles: hahaha thanks
  • [15:31] SonicAnd Miles: :p
  • [15:31] Kallista Destiny: lol
  • [15:31] Oskar Linden: the sims look for updated changes themself
  • [15:32] Fancy Greeter: Gioffredo Linden has arrived!
  • [15:32] SonicAnd Miles: we will just never reboot. works for me hahaha :p
  • [15:32] FadeOut Razorfen: okay... i've got interesting question. why 256x256x4096 at the first place ?
  • [15:32] Oskar Linden: ok guys
  • [15:33] Oskar Linden: real quick stand up and find gioffredo on this region
  • [15:33] Flip Idlemind: Near the center
  • [15:33] Oskar Linden: go fly over real fast and then fly back
  • [15:33] Oskar Linden: you'll show up on our meeting screens
  • [15:33] Rex Cronon: just send him a tp. will get here faster:)
  • [15:33] Flip Idlemind: Found him!
  • [15:33] Flip Idlemind: Where'd my treat?
  • [15:34] Oskar Linden shouts: haha
  • [15:34] Oskar Linden shouts: nice work guys!
  • [15:34] Rex Cronon: my old viewer is no match for whatever lip uses:)
  • [15:34] FadeOut Razorfen: nope, drops
  • [15:34] Motor Loon: ok, thats enough physical excise for one day
  • [15:34] Fancy Greeter: Gioffredo Linden has arrived!
  • [15:34] Oskar Linden: that was a test of his new testing viewer
  • [15:35] Oskar Linden: that was funny
  • [15:35] Rex Cronon: do u really want us to go to the center of sim and back?
  • [15:35] Oskar Linden: everyone in this meeting was laughing
  • [15:35] Motor Loon: too late rex... you missed the fun
  • [15:35] Flip Idlemind: Was he actually here the whole time?
  • [15:35] Oskar Linden shouts: EVERYONE BACK HERE NOW
  • [15:35] Oskar Linden: haha
  • [15:35] Lucia Nightfire: what I miss
  • [15:35] Oskar Linden: let's leave him alone now :-)
  • [15:35] Oskar Linden: that was good fun
  • [15:35] SonicAnd Miles: yes! caption
  • [15:35] Motor Loon: yeah poor guy must be scared shitless now
  • [15:35] Rex Cronon: until i upgrade my viewer i can't jump like that
  • [15:35] Oskar Linden: Resident Griefing Test: Pass
  • [15:35] SonicAnd Miles: winning
  • [15:35] Kallista Destiny: Lols
  • [15:36] Motor Loon: haha
  • [15:36] Theresa Tennyson: Is there a viewer guy here? We should tie him up and drag him over.
  • [15:36] Oskar Linden: everyone was here watching that. bambers, rei, oz, alexa, mercille
  • [15:36] Lucia Nightfire: not everyday theres a feeding frenzy on Linden
  • [15:36] Flip Idlemind: Ok, so...what was the test?
  • [15:36] FadeOut Razorfen: sounds spam pls
  • [15:36] Oskar Linden: I'm in a meeting talking about our new automated testing framework
  • [15:36] Oskar Linden: pretty sweet
  • [15:36] Oskar Linden: so he was using an automated testing viewer
  • [15:36] Rex Cronon: oh. so u wanted us to gang up on him and ask for money:)
  • [15:36] Oskar Linden: for us to start building test automation frameworks for vwr
  • [15:36] Oskar Linden: nope
  • [15:36] TankMaster Finesmith: say hi to alexa for me :D
  • [15:37] Oskar Linden: leave him alone now
  • [15:37] Oskar Linden: :-)
  • [15:37] Motor Loon: wait... he had money?
  • [15:37] Oskar Linden: so I think Falcon is here
  • [15:37] Oskar Linden: Falcon?
  • [15:37] Oskar Linden: Maestro?
  • [15:37] Oskar Linden: Pathfinding updates?
  • [15:37] Maestro Linden: Hello
  • [15:37] Lucia Nightfire: he seemed to disconnect for a minute when I contacted him
  • [15:37] Oskar Linden: he logged off in fear
  • [15:37] Rex Cronon: hi maestro
  • [15:37] Lucia Nightfire: was doing teh long walk so to speak
  • [15:37] Maestro Linden: We're planning a pathfinding server update for sometime soon
  • [15:37] Maestro Linden: today or tomorrow
  • [15:37] Motor Loon: update?
  • [15:37] Maestro Linden: nothing too exciting is happening with that.. just bugfixes, I think
  • [15:37] Nalates Urriah: ADITI or AGNI?
  • [15:37] Maestro Linden: to the RC PF channel on Agni, Motor
  • [15:38] Motor LoonMotor Loon nodws
  • [15:38] Motor Loon: nods even
  • [15:38] Maestro Linden: did you guys watch Agni go up in flames, by the way?
  • [15:38] Flip Idlemind: When was this ◯.(⁐)
  • [15:38] SonicAnd Miles: yepperz
  • [15:38] Rex Cronon: flames? where?
  • [15:38] Orion Zenoria: o.0
  • [15:38] Fancy Greeter: Gioffredo Linden has arrived!
  • [15:38] Maestro Linden: India
  • [15:39] Oskar Linden: what are you talking about Maestro?
  • [15:39] Maestro Linden: http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/the-launch-of-agni-v-indias-long-range-missile/
  • [15:39] Oskar Linden: oh
  • [15:39] Motor Loon: lol
  • [15:39] SonicAnd Miles: oh, aha
  • [15:39] Nalates Urriah: oh... I saw it on tv
  • [15:39] Oskar Linden: near my house in Seattle is an ADITI construction company
  • [15:39] Rex Cronon: oh they plan to nuke china?
  • [15:39] Oskar Linden: makes me laugh every time
  • [15:39] Maestro Linden: Aditi's a pretty dangerous place
  • [15:40] Motor Loon: so... thats the answer to people who make fun of their accent eh
  • [15:40] Rex Cronon: oh. right the name of this from indian mythology
  • [15:40] Oskar Linden: what was falcon going to talk about maestro?
  • [15:40] Oskar Linden: hindu elder gods
  • [15:40] Maestro Linden: Hm, I'm not sure what he was planning
  • [15:40] Maestro Linden: lemme try to find him..
  • [15:40] Oskar Linden: no one knows what Falcon is planning
  • [15:40] Oskar Linden: thanks maestro
  • [15:41] Flip Idlemind: So, not that I'm hoping for bugs or anything, but...if the BlueSteel / Le Tigre server is buggy, could the Magnum one possibly get promoted?
  • [15:41] Rex Cronon: rabbit hunt?
  • [15:41] Oskar Linden: maestro and falcon work about 10ft from each other
  • [15:41] Kris Spade: Hehe
  • [15:41] Oskar Linden: yes Flip
  • [15:41] FadeOut Razorfen: oh, buddys :3
  • [15:41] Oskar Linden: that is how the system works
  • [15:41] FadeOut Razorfen: nice
  • [15:41] SonicAnd Miles: except my sim lol
  • [15:41] Oskar Linden: so.... :-) if you REALLY want Magnum to get promoted find nasty bugs in BlueSteel/LeTigre
  • [15:41] Maestro Linden: Falcon just wanted to send a reminder about his PUG at 4pm
  • [15:41] Oskar Linden: that's how it works
  • [15:41] FadeOut Razorfen: PATHBUG-75 still ain't perfect, my last comment on that "So what i should do to make enemy NPC do not fly like 20 meters away when it get hit by an arrow with 200 vel with very low mass and volume ? I've got no other solution then making arrows use llVolumeDetect, which would break a proper projectile behavior... Something about that pls ?"
  • [15:42] Oskar Linden: oh right!
  • [15:42] Flame of Jira: [#PATHBUG-75] CLONE - Characters are push when hit with small fast moving prim https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/PATHBUG-75
  • [15:42] FadeOut Razorfen: oh wait, early about that lol
  • [15:42] Kris Spade: If nothing else I am hoping for kittens and rainbows with PATHBUG-69 but that is beyond the scope of this meeting :P__Oskar
  • [15:42] Flame of Jira: [#PATHBUG-69] llVolumeDetect(TRUE) is broken https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/PATHBUG-69
  • [15:42] Oskar Linden: The Pathfinding User Group on ADITI at 4pm
  • [15:42] Oskar Linden: maestro is there a wiki page for that?
  • [15:42] FadeOut Razorfen: yea, i missclicked that one
  • [15:42] Rex Cronon: why is #PATHBUG-75 a bug? shouldn't bullets affect them?
  • [15:43] FadeOut Razorfen: yea, but mass is too low to be affected like that
  • [15:43] FadeOut Razorfen: watch the video included
  • [15:43] Oskar Linden: spread the word about the Pathfinding Users Group please
  • [15:43] Rex Cronon: depends on velocity
  • [15:43] Oskar Linden: get the word out to everyone who wants to be there
  • [15:43] TankMaster Finesmith: where is the pathfinding UG?
  • [15:43] Maestro Linden: Pathtest... 1?
  • [15:44] Rex Cronon: on this grid
  • [15:44] FadeOut Razorfen: rex sorry u ain't reading what i say, i ain't answering
  • [15:44] Oskar Linden: Maestro can you make a wiki page with the PUG details
  • [15:44] Maestro Linden: I'm pretty sure it's a pathtest region, but don't know which one
  • [15:44] Oskar Linden: so we have something to send to people
  • [15:44] Rex Cronon: ok. i will try and watch the video:)
  • [15:44] Motor Loon: urh... that volumedetect thing really is a showstopper
  • [15:44] Fancy Greeter: Kelly Linden has arrived!
  • [15:45] Maestro Linden: we could add something to the existing pathfinding beta wiki page
  • [15:45] Oskar Linden: talk about it at the meeting
  • [15:45] Oskar Linden: hi kelly
  • [15:45] Oskar Linden: everyone say hi to kelly
  • [15:45] Oskar Linden: welcome to the meeting
  • [15:45] Theresa Tennyson: Hi Kello!
  • [15:45] Kris Spade: I agree Motor
  • [15:45] Stolen Ruby: Hello, Kelly
  • [15:45] SonicAnd Miles: hi kelly :)
  • [15:45] Theresa Tennyson: *Kelly!
  • [15:45] Rex Cronon: howdy kelly:)
  • [15:45] Matu: Hello!
  • [15:45] Ima Mechanique: hi
  • [15:45] Kelly Linden: o/
  • [15:45] Moundsa Mayo: Halloooo, Kelly!
  • [15:45] Oskar Linden: how are you this week kelly?
  • [15:46] SonicAnd Miles: we just hid motors comment in chat lol
  • [15:46] Oskar Linden: what's the word on that group message / magnum issue?
  • [15:46] Moundsa Mayo: * [15:29] Falcon Linden: PathTest1 on Aditi, at least at first
  • [15:46] Oskar Linden: ok
  • [15:46] Kelly Linden: Have a fix verified on aditi for the group notice issue seen on magnum. Current plan is for it to go out next week with Magnum's update
  • [15:47] Moundsa Mayo: And thanks for getting the chat logs up so reliably, Oskar!
  • [15:47] Oskar Linden: :-)
  • [15:47] Oskar Linden: thanks Moundsa. I try.
  • [15:47] Rex Cronon: fadout. could it have something to do with the new flight limit?
  • [15:47] MartinRJ Fayray: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-7845?
  • [15:47] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-7845] Group notices are not sent to users from 12.04.13.253827 RC https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-7845
  • [15:47] Oskar Linden: cool
  • [15:47] Oskar Linden: so there you go FLIP, Magnum for sure won't get promoted next week
  • [15:47] Oskar Linden: sorry!
  • [15:48] Oskar Linden: it's the INV changes or nothing
  • [15:48] Flip Idlemind: Awwwww, oh well
  • [15:49] Oskar Linden: any questions about anything?
  • [15:49] Oskar Linden: now is your chance
  • [15:49] FadeOut Razorfen: pathbugs
  • [15:49] Oskar Linden: except for pathfinding :-)
  • [15:49] Oskar Linden: save those for the PUG
  • [15:49] Theresa Tennyson: What's happening with threaded region crossings?
  • [15:49] Oskar Linden: threaded region crossing is on hold
  • [15:49] Kris Spade: That is next? PUG? Where?
  • [15:49] Oskar Linden: the developer who owns that code is on vacation
  • [15:49] Oskar Linden: and we're not going to touch it without her
  • [15:50] Oskar Linden: once she gets back then we can get it updated with the latest code
  • [15:50] Oskar Linden: and get tested
  • [15:50] Oskar Linden: then re-deployed to RC again
  • [15:50] Theresa Tennyson: Kewl.
  • [15:50] Oskar Linden: it's still there
  • [15:50] Oskar Linden: it's just on hold
  • [15:50] FadeOut Razorfen: women programming threaded region crossings... dangerous stuff
  • [15:50] Oskar Linden: oh no
  • [15:50] Motor Loon: lmao!
  • [15:50] Oskar Linden: this girl is SMART
  • [15:50] Oskar Linden: super super smart
  • [15:51] Motor Loon: she can MULTITASK
  • [15:51] Oskar Linden: like wicked crazy smart
  • [15:51] FadeOut Razorfen: oh
  • [15:51] FadeOut Razorfen: now i get the idea
  • [15:51] Moundsa Mayo: Kris, Falcon's PUG on Aditi:PathTest1 immediately following this meeting.
  • [15:51] Oskar Linden: she would make your brain hurt
  • [15:51] Flip Idlemind: Is it Carmilla? Or whatever her name was
  • [15:51] Moundsa Mayo: Polytasking
  • [15:51] Oskar Linden: yes
  • [15:51] Motor Loon: ...what Oskar means is... she' has big boobs
  • [15:51] Oskar Linden: nope
  • [15:51] Oskar Linden: I mean that isn't what I mean
  • [15:51] Oskar Linden: don't put words in my mouth
  • [15:51] Oskar Linden: :-p
  • [15:51] Motor Loon: lol
  • [15:51] SonicAnd Miles: hahaha
  • [15:52] Oskar Linden: Carmilla is pretty amazing
  • [15:52] SonicAnd Miles: this meeting is awesome today
  • [15:52] Oskar Linden: once her code gets deployed and phase 2 comes back I'll bring her back in here
  • [15:52] Orion Zenoria: awesome meeting is awesome
  • [15:52] Oskar Linden: look through the logs from last year and read the transcript from the meeting when she was here last
  • [15:52] Rex Cronon: boobs or no boobs, does it really matter who wrote code, as long as is on time, is working, and has no bugs:)
  • [15:52] Flip Idlemind: I remember when she was at this meeting, she was talking about all kinds of quantum mechanical things and whatnot
  • [15:52] Oskar Linden: I don't remember when it wasy
  • [15:52] Oskar Linden: august maybe
  • [15:53] Oskar Linden: that's one of her hobbies
  • [15:53] Oskar Linden: like over breakfast
  • [15:53] Kris Spade: There is a PUG meeting on PathTest1 I gather right after this?
  • [15:53] Oskar Linden: attempting to prove new quantum functions
  • [15:53] Theresa Tennyson: I saw it - is Phase 2 on the radar now?
  • [15:53] Homeless: I remember the phrase "atomic crossings"
  • [15:53] Oskar Linden: it's on the radar
  • [15:53] Oskar Linden: but waiting on phase 1
  • [15:54] Oskar Linden: ok so any questions not about carmilla :-p
  • [15:54] Motor Loon: <crickets>
  • [15:54] Draconis Neurocam: how is the corn dog maker?
  • [15:54] Oskar Linden: well ok then
  • [15:54] Oskar Linden: oh man
  • [15:54] FadeOut Razorfen: lol
  • [15:54] Oskar Linden: the corndog maker is epic!
  • [15:54] Oskar Linden: we use it like every day
  • [15:54] SonicAnd Miles: oh yeah, i was gonna say, now u neeed an ICEE machine
  • [15:54] Oskar Linden: making corndogs
  • [15:54] Oskar Linden: doing some qa
  • [15:55] MartinRJ Fayray: yeah how can we avoid that people do resource vandalism on the Wiki, like this:
  • [15:55] MartinRJ Fayray: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-4675?
  • [15:55] Flame of Jira: [#WEB-4675] Wiki: Deny all content deletion requests made by Kira Komarov and restore all content https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-4675
  • [15:55] Oskar Linden: making more corndogs
  • [15:55] Flip Idlemind: By do QA do you mean make sure the corndogs are good
  • [15:55] Oskar Linden: :-)
  • [15:55] Moundsa Mayo: Can you use different kinds of sausages?
  • [15:55] Oskar Linden: testplan:
  • [15:55] Rex Cronon: u guys going to break it soon, if u use it too often:)
  • [15:55] Oskar Linden: step 1: eat them
  • [15:55] Homeless: I'm getting a "failure to rez object" error here on aditi, it started after I fetched my inventory from Agni... does this happen to anyone else?
  • [15:55] Oskar Linden: it might
  • [15:56] Oskar Linden: maestro was looking into that issue
  • [15:56] Maestro Linden: Yes, there's an issue
  • [15:56] Nalates Urriah: Yes...
  • [15:56] Maestro Linden: recently agni->aditi imported accuonts are misconfigured
  • [15:56] Homeless: ok
  • [15:56] Maestro Linden: they're stretched between two inventory dbs
  • [15:56] Maestro Linden: and sometimes the wrong db is checked
  • [15:56] Nalates Urriah: I can rez some things but nothing recent from AGNI. And I can't save stuff to INV from here.
  • [15:56] Flip Idlemind: That happened to my alt. A few of my attachments fail to rez, and my last location is always unvailable
  • [15:57] Flip Idlemind: But good that it's a known issue
  • [15:57] Maestro Linden: this also causes your inventory to be 'reset' when you relog to aditi
  • [15:57] Homeless: Yeah I get last location unavailable also now
  • [15:57] Chieron Tenk: a, thats why I get the scenic tour of unavailable last positions on aditii lately
  • [15:57] Kris Spade: Can anyone tell me where this PUG meeting is being hosted at 4PM?
  • [15:57] MartinRJ Fayray: PathTest1
  • [15:57] Oskar Linden: what he said
  • [15:57] Kris Spade: Ok thanks ㋡
  • [15:57] Nalates Urriah: SVC-7727
  • [15:58] Flame of Jira: [#SVC-7727] Aditi grid problem. After changing my password to cause my inventory on Aditi to update, my inventory no longer saves changes made to it from session to session. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-7727
  • [15:58] Kris Spade: I'm gonna head there now. Have a great rest of the night everyone!
  • [15:58] Nalates Urriah: A bunch of problems got added to that
  • [15:58] SonicAnd Miles: traider
  • [15:58] SonicAnd Miles: kris lol
  • [15:59] Rex Cronon: only one person there. too early to jump
  • [15:59] Oskar Linden: hah
  • [15:59] Oskar Linden: ok everyone
  • [15:59] Moundsa Mayo: Prolly just Kris B^)
  • [15:59] Oskar Linden: thanks for coming to this usergroup
  • [15:59] Nalates Urriah: Thx Oskar
  • [15:59] Oskar Linden: I appreciate your perspective and involvement
  • [15:59] Motor Loon: Good fun as usual °͜°
  • [15:59] SonicAnd Miles: thanks for the awesome meeting :)
  • [16:00] Oskar Linden: you are awesome and I love you all <3
  • [16:00] SonicAnd Miles: c ya next week and i hopefully wont confuse u again :p
  • [16:00] Moundsa Mayo: Oskar, Maestro, Kelly, thanks for your time and work!
  • [16:00] Oskar Linden: ok group hugs all around
  • [16:00] SonicAnd Miles: or maybe i will.... o.O
  • [16:00] Moundsa Mayo: awwww
  • [16:00] SonicAnd Miles: JK
  • [16:00] Grid Crash Protection Box: Sovereign Engineer, you are no longer protected from the vagaries of the Grid - beware!
  • [16:00] Rex Cronon: your office hours(group meetings) interesting as always:)
  • [16:00] Oskar LindenOskar Linden group hugs you all
  • [16:00] Lucia Nightfire: thanks
  • [16:01] Oskar Linden: ok I am logging off now
  • [16:01] Sigma Avro: tkanks all
  • [16:01] Oskar Linden: *waves*
  • [16:01] Rex Cronon: tc all those leaving. i am jumpting to the PUG:)
  • [16:01] SonicAnd Miles: lol l8r
  • [16:01] Oskar Linden: have a good week/weekend!
  • [16:01] Stolen Ruby: Goodbye, Oskar!
  • [16:01] Rex Cronon: u2
  • [16:01] Chieron Tenk: bye oskar