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Clean install

When I search for "Clean Install" I'm getting redirected to an unrelated KB article. I'm having to explain to an old user that wants to step over to the new (...) viewer how to do a clean install and how to set UDP. Since HTTP and old settings prevent people from stepping over from 1.23 to the new ones. Vick Forcella

I see that! I'll let the Documentation Team know, thanks Vick. - Torley-favicon.png on 2012-07-10 @ 10:29 AM Pacific
Send Jeremy Linden your love! He fixed the wiki redirect and mentions: "The article on how to uninstall and reinstall Second Life should be: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/How-to-uninstall-and-reinstall-Second-Life/ta-p/1375231 / The article for using SL from behind a firewall is: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Using-Second-Life-with-a-firewall/ta-p/1304539". - Torley-favicon.png on 2012-07-10 @ 11:55 AM Pacific
Thank you Torley, Thank you Jeremy. I'd like to point out the UDP article I have on my personal page. The Debug menu has to be used since the other options are not available without a log-in. At least one user has encountered that problem. Vick Forcella 12:20, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

99.44% probability of being AI?

Or 99.44% chance of being a bar of ivory soap? Surely this is not a coincidence. -Reno Rowlands

Philip Linden/Rosedale's user page

Wondered if you know and can explain why Philip's user page has been deleted? I can't help thinking that he did play a minor part in SL's creation (Oooh! Sarcasm) and for him not to be featured on this wiki seems a little odd. Even ex-residents don't have their pages deleted. -- Fred Gandt (talk|contribs) 16:34, 23 July 2011 (PDT)

Display Names (or what ever it's being called at the moment)

Moving the display name articles around has broken a number of the links in the display name articles. -- Strife (talk|contribs) 18:16, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm fixing double redirects, which ones are still broken? Thanks Strife. - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-10-27 @ 11:16 AM Pacific
Bea Linden's on the case right now, she noticed broken anchors! - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-10-27 @ 11:23 AM Pacific

Very nice "How to search" video on the jira

Just hope people actually watch it before searching. I think the biggest problem resulting in dupes on an epic scale is panic (clearly not enough ppl have heard of "The Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy"). "I'm a cloud!" is so popular it could have it's own database. Of course it's understandable that ppl are freaked out and feel depersonalized. Thus the panic sets in and they just want help. Big button marked "Create Issue" and jobs-a-gooden (as we say in blighty (now and then)). Searching first brings up such a daunting list of matches that I assume ppl just think something like "This is a special case" (because to them it is). Dupe fest ensues.

On an unrelated note. I love your latest (I think it's your latest) album "Dream Journal 2". I mean it. It's excellent. I love the fact I can leave it on repeat without any continuity errors. It goes around and around and around.....each mood flowing into the next like syrup. Awesome! -- Fred Gandt (talk|contribs) 18:34, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Unlike some, I hearted the H2G2 movie. Sue Linden and I have embedded the video as a thumbnail on the front page of http://jira.secondlife.com , so hopefully it's hard to miss. Let me know if there's anywhere else it deserves to be shown in a big way.
And, my Dream Journal 2 counterpart thanks you — we make, break, and reshape loops, representing our particular fabrics of realities. :) - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-09-20 @ 5:44 AM Pacific
"we make, break, and reshape loops, representing our particular fabrics of realities" <--- Easy for you to say!? Now try saying it ten times fast ;) -- Fred Gandt (talk|contribs) 00:30, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Second Life Railroad and related pages

Hi Torley. I wonder if you might review the continuing argument over the content of Second Life Railroad and (most if not all) related pages? The argument is both ugly to look at and feel (if you catch my drift). I can't see either side giving in so the ugly will probably just get uglier. Couldn't think who better than Jupiter (Bringer of Jollity) (You) to bring this to the attention of. -- Fred Gandt (talk|contribs) 02:18, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Me being one of the "guilty" parties there... lol. Anyway. We (Virtual railway Consortium) setup some wiki pages as neutral as possible from our point of view with the info available to us. We welcome the other party to edit the page. The only think I will stop him from doing is to discredit the VRC or it's members in public. I am trying to play nice. But man, is that ever so hard at the moment. --Stryker J 10:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I hear Holst! ;D Thanks for the heads-up, I posted on Talk:Second_Life_Railroad. Relevant link lists are fine. - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-09-01 @ 5:00 AM Pacific
Looking at the answer you gave on the SLRR main info page you may not have seen the SLRR History page and the 'talk' going on there. Sort of the same but much more intense. --Stryker J 12:19, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Having a look now... - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-09-01 @ 5:27 AM Pacific

Thanks Torley. And yes, Holst. Love that stuff. The Planets, Mahler's Symphony No.8 and Wagner's Ring Cycle (the full 16 hours!) are 3 (top of the list) pieces I would love to see live someday. Actually I'd have to add Elgar's Enigma Variations to that list too (it would be a very long list).

Anyhoo...TY-- Fred Gandt (talk|contribs) 14:59, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
And the fun continues... grumpff... please take an other look at Talk:Second Life Railroad. I resent having my group being called "vrc/mole group". Some LDPW moles are part of the membership on a voluntary basis. That does NOT make us a Mole group. I resent even more that I am accused of "propaganda" and "victimization" of people inside and outside the VRC membership! That really makes me sick. That is typically what I am struggling with for months now. Hope you are willing to take one last look at this and do something with it... even if it means deleting the page Yours Truly (in tears) --Stryker J 11:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
And it keeps getting better and better... Now the pages I helped create are cut by 50-70% of the Second Life Railroad/SLRR_History. Vital information is now missing and I had to undo the major changes on Second Life Railroad, But I kept the new stuff he put in. That was not good enough either... grumpff... Apparently it's 'his' way or no way at all! --Stryker J 10:14, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Not content with limiting the freedom of speech and information gathering on the SLRR pages, we now have to content with removal edits from our groups wiki railroad pages as well! Virtual_Railway_Consortium/SLRR_History_1, Virtual_Railway_Consortium/SLRR_History_2 and Virtual_Railway_Consortium/SLRR_Stations --Stryker J 12:02, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I've removed Jer Straaf's edit privileges; I already made it clear that groups can moderate the content on their own pages (and sub-pages). - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-09-14 @ 6:10 AM Pacific

KB Article Correction

The KB article at Viewer 2 Moves incorrectly describes Clear Cache. To clear cache in Viewer 2, you use the Clear History button (same button you use for clearing browser history also clears the web and texture cache). The Reset button described, is for resetting the cache location back to the Second Life default location (though it will also clear cache if you have actually moved your cache location and are moving it back to default). Harleen Gretzky 14:11, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Good cache, um, catch! Thanks Harleen... updated. - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-08-24 @ 5:05 AM Pacific

Extension request

Hi, how would I go by requesting an extention to be added to the wiki, or is it even allowed? --Uglehsig.png(talk) 19:40, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

For a name like that, you have a pretty signature. Feel free to request here — we don't get many requests and can't guarantee we'll include it, but if it could be broadly useful, it's worth knowing about. - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-06-01 @ 12:47 PM Pacific
I thought it would be simple to have this [1] to replace certain strings globally for lindens use, but lindens can get requests for it.

--Uglehsig.png(talk) 21:43, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Good news! As shown on Special:Version we have that installed. Did you have a string replacement request? - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-06-01 @ 2:53 PM Pacific

oh wow didn't know that page was there. Also not at the moment no, but abit ago I had to edit 10+ pages to change 1 word, so thought it would be a good extension. --Uglehsig.png(talk) 22:04, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Redirect delete?

Any chance you could delete this redirect? A few templates look at the existence of that page as evidence for whether or not the meeting happened. Also, is there anywhere else to go for these sorts of things in the future? (I was looking for a non-Linden but there doesn't seem to be any non-Linden admins... :P ) Celierra Darling 19:49, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Deleted. I don't know who else could really help but I've done lots of this so if you can batch up a list of these requests and add them here, or contact me via email, that'd be awesome. Thanks and good to hear from ya! - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-05-10 @ 2:40 PM Pacific
There's a Template:Delete with a connected category named Category:Suggested For Deletion, though it's not yet monitored by Lindens. Maybe you can jump in? :)
--Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 22:08, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing that out! Yeah, I promise to get to that this week and will let Doc Team know. I'm looking through it now and notice some of these pages don't have a stated reason why they should be deleted? - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-05-11 @ 7:50 AM Pacific
Welcome! :)
Hm... I browsed through the category but couldn't find articles without reasoning. Though I'd suggest to remove the template when there's no apparent reason and/or to leave a note at the requesters talkpage.
--Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 15:56, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Triage was canceled again, so now this page needs deleting, Thanks --Harleen Gretzky 05:01, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Would it not make more sense for the records to have a simple note on triage pages (when they don't happen as planned) describing that it was a non event, rather than having an unexplained hole in the records? No particular bother to me one way or the other. -- Fred Gandt (talk|contribs) 09:04, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Observant point, Fred. From experience I prefer stating a non-event, too. It's more specific. Harleen, what do you think? - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-05-19 @ 7:20 AM Pacific
The problem is some pages depend on the non-existence of the page, like Bug Triage. When a page is created before it is known that the event is cancelled, the page is then moved to next week. This causes a redirect page to be automatically created to point the non-event date to the new date. But the bug triage page then lists the new date and the old date (which just redirects to the new date). Now if Template:Last Triage can be modified to detect the non-events somehow that might work. Example - 12:00 PM (noon) PDT 2010-05-24 Hippotropolis Meeting area 2010-05-17, here the link for 2010-05-17 redirects to the 2010-05-24 page, so both links display the same page. --Harleen Gretzky 23:49, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm currently not aware of an easy way on how to mod Template:LastTriage to check for cancelled events. However, it would be fairly easy when WEB-1579 would be deployed. I spoke with Yoz a couple of days ago and he said he'd consider it and relay it for a security check. It might get live in about a month or two... Maybe faster, when someone else could make a code review as well (it's a custom extension). --Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 02:22, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
I wasn't aware of that context, so for now, I'll delete this particular triage redirect — and hope there's a better template in the future. - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-05-20 @ 7:44 AM Pacific

Wufoo form question

Hi Torley

Zai suggested to bring this up here on your discussion page, as you'd know who would be responsible. So could you have a look at Where to file Policy Change Requests?, please? Thanks! --Boroondas Gupte 13:55, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Glad you asked. Yes, we can clarify this. I'll create an article and link from the form. - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-03-29 @ 5:33 AM Pacific

Region table

Heyas :-)
I just noticed that this table is embedded in 3 LLO articles and should therefor probably be protected...--Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 22:41, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

You caught me at the right moment! It should be, and is now. THANKS. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-11-18 @ 2:43 PM PST
Welcome! :-)
One more that should probably go through the form thingy but since I'm trying to fix the localized versions:
In Linden Lab Official:Buying land in the Land Store there's a link to Homestead in #4, that's actually linking to the void sim article. I think it should go to Linden Lab Official:About Homesteads.
--Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 23:09, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
I'll take this too. Letting me know of quickies here is just fine, saves time for both of us. If you notice a whole bunch of stuff, you know what to do with sending a batch! I prefer those because I can work intensely on related items in a list.
And I just added a sig image link because I noticed you did yours! - Torley-favicon.png on 2009-11-18 @ 3:33 PM Pacific
Hehe ^_^ you should try to toy around with that signature setting in preferences, tho it doesn't like templates, unfortunatly :-/
It substitutes templates with the underlaying code. That can be changed in the MediaWiki settings but is switched on by default since there is some policy in the English Wikipedia about templates in signatures.
At batches: Ah okies :-) will try to sum up fixes before submitting :-)
Cyas! --Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 23:38, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Speaking of regions... I'm looking at the math used at Linden_Lab_Official:Homestead_FAQ#What's the policy for converting up an Openspace region to a Homestead region, a Homestead region to a Full region, or an Openspace region to a Full region? and it appears that if I convert 3 homestead regions into a single full region, LL would owe me $25 ($1000 - ($375 + $375 + $375 ) + $100 = -$25. This can't be correct... can it? -- Strife (talk|contribs) 22:08, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for calling that out, I'm going to get verification from Concierge & Billing TO BE SURE. - Torley-favicon.png on 2009-11-23 @ 8:51 AM Pacific

Saw this...

Saw this made you this. -- Strife (talk|contribs) 07:41, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorcery! Seriously, thanks for your coding guruness. Oh! Can you provide some usage examples on that page, please? :) - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-11-18 @ 7:36 AM PST
Sure but i can't show them in action (can't have multiple TOCs in an article). -- Strife (talk|contribs) 21:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Yup I understand that part, just makes it easier for others to adopt! - Torley-favicon.png on 2009-11-23 @ 10:22 AM Pacific

Inworld policy on bots

Hi Torley, I´m translating this article (CT-538) and in the section "How will this be enforced" it says "This time next week we will begin to routinely look at the Search results and where we find clear use of Bots to gain an unfair Search advantage we will be handling it as an abuse issue." Now I´m wondering if I should translate it like "We have begun to routinely..." or if I should just leave it as is as it is citing from the blog... --Torben Trautman 18:11, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Also I was wondering about this part: "Going forward we are going to look at ways to allow you to voluntarily identify to us that an account is a Bot, so that we can remove it from Traffic completely." I guess I´ll just leave everything as is and we update the article once it´s up to date? --Torben Trautman 18:24, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey Torben! I haven't personally checked the specific status of what's happening with bot enforcement, but yes, it's generally best to word things in present tense to bring them up-to-date. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-11-02 @ 10:51 AM PST

reviewer status

Torley, I was wondering why my status as a reviewer was removed? Not sure if this is related to what happened earlier today but any insight either from you or Alexa would be appreciated. GW (T|C) -- 01:41, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I've emailed you about this. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-10-28 @ 8:06 AM PST
I did not recieve the email, my email can be a bit strange sometimes, I'll IM you with an alternate email you can try. GW (T|C) -- 16:41, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Recieved and replied to. Thanks for re-sending. GW (T|C) -- 17:32, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

2 weird articles

Heyas! Me again :-)
Just stumbled about these two articles which feature the exact same content and which titles are wacko o.O. Can you fix?

--Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 17:31, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah! Keep adding any more you find right here, I'll be refreshing my talk page later after I get through your first (email) list... THANXARAMA. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-10-14 @ 10:35 AM PST
OK, am done Fixing all micro formatting flaws (that I could find) in main namespace KB articles.
Not much but here's what I found, noted and didn't correct on my own but here's what I remember right now:
What is an avatar key? is same as What is a UUID?. Should be "an" UUID anyway, or?
Three images in Tips and Tricks: Better Building with Primfficiency! aren't working (weren't working in Parature either).
Also, the Style Guide mentions that the first appearance of trademarked terms should have their related trademark symbols. Template:Seal contains the terms "Second Life" and "Linden Lab". Would be clever to add ® there, then we won't have to manually fix it in each article for the actual content.
Maybe a link to the Community Translation Project would be a good idea in there. We're having no obvious link where people are encouraged to translate articles (would be of great benefit for the CT Project.
Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 18:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
What a journey it's been! Fixed those and added notes where necessary. "Would be clever..." is VERY CLEVER INDEED! I'll let the list know (for this and other localization tasks that are related to KB work but not in the Doc Team's direct responsibilities). Also, I want to promote CTP more but need to get Noelle & Team's approval. So let's wait on them. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-10-14 @ 4:01 PM PST
Heyas :-)
Yeah, was an awesome editing rampage you had there! It pushed you up to #3 ^_^
Alerted by an edit of JamesG Comsys, I noticed that there are three articles currently linking to a non-existend Concierge Support contact information article. These are:
I guess Concierge Support contact information might be one of the articles that should still be in Parature, since LL only makes these available to people with the right account status. So the blank Wiki article would best be removed and the LLO article links updated to point back to parature.
--Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 17:06, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Good gosh, I can't have anyone thinking I'm slacking off here. ;) Thanx re: those Concierge articles, my able colleagues are inspecting that now. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-10-19 @ 10:10 AM PST

Templates

Heyas :-)
To remarks about templates. One is related to the Template:Navbox subpages. I think, rather than using templates inside a navbox, it would be better to use a navbox inside a template. The advantages are: More freedom to change the appearance and less to type when you want to include it in an article.
So instead of 

{{Navbox
|title={{Navbox/Adult-title}}
|content={{Navbox/Adult}}
}}

You'd create one Template:Adult Navbox and then use a {{Navbox|title=something|content=something else}} inside of it. You'd just have to add {{Adult Navbox}} to articles (looks cleaner) and you can style changes in the Adult Navbox without having to change the Navbox template (or all articles using it).

Another thing: some tags don't like wikicode as an argument. They don't interpret it as wikicode. <videoflash>, <lsl> and <pre> belong to these. They need to be treated with a {{#tag|parameter|argument1=value1|argument2=value2}} kind of setup, see the one on the bottom here. I changed it for Template:KBvideo.

cu :-) --Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 18:47, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
P.S: After I realized that "greets" isn't a proper way to say "sincerly yours" in a less formal way in English, I'm in the dilemma of lacking a flowery phrase to end my mails and comments :-/ ^^

Hey Zai! I thought about "it would be better to use a navbox inside a template" too. But here's the problem: then what happens if I want to change the UNIVERSAL STYLE of all those navboxes? Or, what if I just want to include the article listing WITHOUT the box, as on Category:Adult? Anyway, we're still in the early stages here, so if this ends up being awkward, it surely will be replaced by a better way. That's evolution.
I'll check Template:KBvideo soon and appreciate your attention to detail.
"Greets" or "Cheers" is cool with me... heck, invent your unique own! - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-10-12 @ 11:57 AM PST
I thought this through some more (nested templates demand nested logic!) and now clearly understand the Template:Navbox benefits you're pointing out to me! I also misunderstood how styles get applied, so ignore my "UNIVERSAL STYLE" question. I'm going to make your suggested superior change to the "Adult" and "Xstreet" ones shortly. Good to catch this early! - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-10-12 @ 12:39 PM PST
Very welcome :-) btw: The {{#tag...etc markup workaround is attributed to Kuraiko. We had the same problem yesterday in another Wiki and he found the solution. Some documentation is really hidden away where you'd not expect it to be ^^
Cyas :-) --Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 00:14, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Flagged Revs

Heyas Torley! :-)
I'm pretty sure you'd be interested in reading Enable FlaggedRevs only on specific pages. I didn't test it yet... But the answer came from one of the two Flagged Revs developers.
Cheers =) --Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 01:52, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

YO ZAI! I'm back from the weekend and ready to rock. YES, THANK YOU for the proactive research — I'll check this out and make sure our Migration Team sees it. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-09-08 @ 7:49 AM PST
Kewl, thx and ROCK ON! ^^ --Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 19:18, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Funny

Just a short heads-up, that you pasted the wrong URL over here. I dunno which is the right one, or I would have corrected it... :-)
--Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 05:59, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you fix a kinda embarassing word choice error of mine that got archived please?

a while ago, I was under the mistaken impression that the slang "bollocks" could be used in the same way as the slangs "damn" and "crap", though more recently I've read it is supposed to be used for a different meaning, would it be possible to replace the instance of that slang that got archived with the last version of my comment about my first link the Joss Stone video with your colortheme having become invalid, with "balls" please? (that one I'm sure I've seen british people using in the way I intended to)--TigroSpottystripes Katsu 12:53, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Sure, done. :) - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-07-20 @ 7:25 AM PST

Importing Wikipedia content - part 2

Torley, can you take a look at and chime in on Project:Editing_Discussion#Wikipedia_content_-_part_2? It's in regards to the steps that need to be taken on this end to implement Wikipedia content. Thanks. GW (T|C) -- 17:39, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

PNGs

Emblem-important-yellow.png Note! OptiPNG FTW!

A Resident has noticed you've been uploading PNG images lately. Please consider using a lossless recompression tool such as OptiPNG to reduce the file size without compromising on quality. Alternatively, consider uploading the PNG images as JPEGs!

A vidtut on how to use OptiPNG can be viewed on Template:OptiPNG FTW!

Please point me to any problematic images. I sometimes upload large screenshots but have them dynamically resized by MediaWiki into smaller JPGs, so the original PNG isn't shown in the page, anyway. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-05-06 @ 6:00 AM PST

Hippos and Robots

Whoever is responsible for SL Knowledge Base: Hippo and SL Knowledge Base: Robots, please give them my kudos (^_^)
Greetz, Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 18:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll be sure to salute them all HIPPOTRONIC. With extra Auto-Tune on top. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-04-29 @ 12:05 PM PST
So ahhh how'd you find these? And are there any others that are hilarious but not "real" KB articles? - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-04-29 @ 12:20 PM PST
They're gone ;_;
I found em when I searched for ban (I'm trying to populate wiki articles with KB article links) and they showed up in the search although not related... Although they're from 2007, there were hardly people who looked at them (had 20 page views before I spread the link via twitter...). I then tried to find others by manually adding KB ID's at the end of the link but with no success so far.
Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 19:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, we removed them, they were used for testing the KB eons ago. But they'll live on in our memory. Very clever! Hehe. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-04-29 @ 12:37 PM PST

Office Hours

Heyas! =)
Marv 'n I finally went the last step to fully replace the old office hour scheduling system with the new one. All current office hours are already transfered to the new system, though people who'd like to change their current OH or who'd like to schedule a new one, will need to become familiar with the new system. Doing it the old way won't have any effect on the Office Hour page anymore. The manual for the new system is stored at Template:Office Hours/Documentation. It would be great if you could give your colleagues at LL some heads-up :-)
Greetz, Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 18:15, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll spread the word 'round LL. Thanks for the heads-up. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-03-02 @ 8:05 AM PST

History of Second Life

Hey hey :-)
Inspired by your culture category, I toyed around in my sandbox and came up with an article named History of Second Life. I spent quite some time to collect links for the right dates when things happened but I'm not really happy with the output yet. My rezday is in the beginning of 2007, so I missed quite much about SLs history. The article would need some ♥ from people who were around when the stuff happened. So the skeleton is online, maybe you know someone who you can poke to flesh it out :-)
Greetz, Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 16:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

This looks GREAT so far! Thanx, I'm going to take a closer look and share it with others who could contribute. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-02-23 @ 9:08 AM PST
thx :-) Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 17:30, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

ImageMapping

Heyas =)
Since I remember you sayin' you'd like the ability to use images as links, I wanted to let you know that Sue and Rob made it possible yesterday. We now got the ImageMap Extension available. So it can even link different parts of a picture to different pages. Like having multiple avatars on one picture and by clicking at an avatar, you get to that persons profile page. Or so. Here is a manual and here is an easy to use tool to create image maps. Using it that way, the extension will produce a line break before and after the image. But by placing picture and text in between <div class="imagemap-inline"></div>, it will be usable as an inline element. Just wanted to let you know :-)
Greetz,
Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 02:08, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Thrilled! Thanks for remembering me, you have superb acuity with your followup. Good to know this exists... :D -Torley (who needs to get my sig added to my Mac)
Very welcome =)
BTW: you can store your sig in your Wikis preferences, so you can place it anytime at any computer. Add
<font color="#ff0080">'''-[[Image:Torley-favicon.png]] [[User:Torley Linden|Torley]] on {{#time:Y-m-d @ g:i A|{{subst:LOCALTIMESTAMP}}}} (UTC)'''</font>
to the "Nickname" field in your prefenrences. Then check the "Raw signatures (without automatic link)" checkbox. In case you save it, you'll then be able to add your sig using 3 tildes (~~~) not 4 tildes, like usually.
BTW2: The Mac looks stunning ^_^
Greetz, Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 22:44, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
OH BRILLIANT, I didn't know that. You're such a great help! - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2008-12-08 @ 11:53 AM PST
Test. -Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2008-12-08 @ 7:54 PM (UTC)

Marv's note to fans of your music

A whopping 3.75GB download (which lead to me overshooting my bandwidth usage for this month :-P) lead me to write this rather simple post.
SignpostMarv Martin 05:55, 30 August 2008 (PDT)

Totoro Cream Puffs

Thought you might want to see this, if you've not already: http://www.alafista.com/2008/06/05/totoro-cream-puffs/
SignpostMarv Martin 16:26, 18 August 2008 (PDT)

Tasty, yet I'd feel guilty snacking on their skulls. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2008-08-19 @ 7:41 AM PST

Help Portal help request

Heyas! =)
Gally 'n me stumbled upon 2 problems related to the new Help Portal, where we wanted to come back to your offer to ask for help. So the one thing is, that we'd like to have a representation of the portal at the Main Page, which is Sysop-locked so we can't alter it on our own. A Template:Main Page/Help is ready for that purpose. The second thing is, that the newer VidTuts are hosted at BlipTV, while the Wiki's videoflash extension isn't supporting it by now. Marv wrote a patch to fix this issue and posted it in the Jira (WEB-761). We'd then be able to make all VidTuts look like this one =)
Can you help us out with these issues?
Greetz, Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 07:20, 13 August 2008 (PDT)

Happy you asked. Thanx for continuing to excellentize our wiki. =^_^=
  1. I'll ask Rob and Sue Linden about this, as they're the designated masters-in-transition of the public wiki. I can make the change myself, but want to be sure to give them, and VTeam (since this is connected to Scribes contributions) and Documentation Team (obviously why!) a heads-up.
  2. All video tutorials continue to be uploaded to YouTube. I prefer blip.tv, and earlier asked if http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Widget could be added to this public wiki, since it appears elegant and easily-extensible. However, there may be some security concerned, so it's (internal DEV-18567) currently assigned to Yoz Linden to check out. If Marv's patch is a quicker, short-term solution that is really no-fuss, I'm for it! - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2008-08-13 @ 7:50 AM PST
Yay, @#1: Glad you're spreadin' it! The more people becoming aware of the new portal, the more might contribute and improve it so yuss, that's good news!
@#2:The widget extension sounds neat... As far as I understand it, it seems to enable some simplified PHP code for a special namespace and yeah, that might be a security risk (I'm not entirely sure, since I'm not a programmer). So maybe not enable it for anyone but for some you can trust? I'd think that for example Strife and Marv would be people you could give editing access to such a namespace. I don't want to step on anyones feet but I think it would improve/speed-up problem resolution in the Wiki alot. For example the requested RSS feature (WEB-590) is pending since 4 month although 3 Lindens (Amber, Lexie & Mia) voted on it as well. Since there is also a widget for that feature I'm sure it would be already implemented in case (some) Residents had editing access to such a widget namespace. So in the end, it would save work for LL (less feature request Jira's) and improve the Wiki at the same time.
However, thx for taking care of it! :-)
Greetz, Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 08:38, 14 August 2008 (PDT)
Hello Torley ! thanks a lot for your interest on this projet ! I share Zai's point of view, the more people will be involved, the better the portal will be :)
About the videoflash I have finally used youtube codes, I will update them with bliptv codes when they are supported by the wiki. (Almost) All your vidtuts are now available here : Category:Video Tutorials :))
Gally Young 10:47, 14 August 2008 (PDT)
PS: I have just noticed you added the portal on the main page! THANKS A LOT ! :)))

RE: twitter

I have a patch for Extension:VideoFlash- which is used for embedding the YouTube vidtuts in the wiki (I've left a note on the author's talk page about the patch)- the patch adds support for blip.tv videos to the extension. The blip.tv flash player includes "episode navigation", so rather than including a link to each individual episode, the article could be cleaned up by just displaying the latest clip in each volume.

SignpostMarv Martin 07:19, 5 May 2008 (PDT)

Audio Problem

I'm having some sound problems, who would you suggest I talk to?

Franksig.png --Brickman1444 Faulkes 11:16, 25 April 2008 (PDT)

--Nevermind. It fixed itself.

Franksig.png--Brickman1444 Faulkes 14:39, 26 April 2008 (PDT)

Tips for backstory?

I just followed your tutorial for creating a user page here yesterday and I was wondering if you had any tips for things to put on it? Is there any information that most user pages display? --Brickman1444 Faulkes 07:03, 6 April 2008 (PDT)

HOLY MOLY! Your user page is looking FABULOUS. Looks like you answered your own question, very colorful and fun. WAY TO GO!!!! - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2008-04-07 @ 1:11 PM PST
Thanks! I ended up looking at other user pages and altering some things from a Wikipedia article. The strategy of just starting to write and jumping right in really worked.--Brickman1444 Faulkes 15:56, 7 April 2008 (PDT)

SL-hCard version 2.0

Just drawing your attention to the watermelony example for Template:SL-hCard/2.0 :-)
SignpostMarv Martin 08:04, 10 March 2008 (PDT)

VidTut Request

Don't suppose you could do a video tutorial or two on using the SL Wiki ?

SignpostMarv Martin 15:33, 19 February 2008 (PST)
P.S.- could you upload your vid tuts to your blip.tv account ?
SignpostMarv Martin 17:43, 19 February 2008 (PST)
Marv, I've been thinking of doing one on how to create your own "user page". What did you have in mind? And re: uploading to blip.tv and many other video sites, it's time-consuming for me and I just don't have enough time! So I'm looking for a better way, maybe http://www.tubemogul.com --Torley
re: blip.tv
  • Uploading with FTP
  • Blip.TV-sl-feed transposer- transposes Blip.TV RSS feeds into a plain text format easily parseable by LSL (the transposed feed parser is being worked on in my Lanercost office)
  • Unless Tube Mogul uses APIs to hand videos over to the services, you'd need to hand over your passwords to a third party service, which is never a good idea.
re: wiki-vid-tuts
SignpostMarv Martin 20:04, 26 February 2008 (PST)

Watermelon Watch

How utterly delightful. --Torley Linden 11:11, 25 February 2007 (PST)



Oh gosh, these crack me up so much! --Torley Linden 14:53, 23 April 2007 (PDT)
Sweet, Microsoft's getting in on the watermelon action! I have no clue what a Popfly is, now I gotta check it out. :D
That's somewhat disturbing. I wonder what Freud would think of it... Daedalus Young 16:13, 8 September 2007 (PDT)
Indubitably delicious. Mmmmm. If I'd steal art, that would be what I'd snatch too. Not that I'm really going to!
--Torley Linden 22:52, 10 August 2007 (PST)
  • Watermelon Love animated short WARNING: WHAT IS SHOWN ON THAT VIDEO AND WHAT MIGHT BE IMPLIED BY IT MIGHT NOT BE CONSIDERED APPROPRIATE BY SOME, VIEWER DISCRETION ADVISED
I'm not sure what to make up from that video, the 3 things it made me think on: Hanibal Lecter (the character), Venus Fly Trap(the plant) and Hellraiser(the movies). but perhaps I have a very twisted mind and someone else might find only beauty in it. The site mentioned on the end doesn't seem to be there anymore and the wayback machine had some issue in the server it has that site stored.--TigroSpottystripes Katsu 17:47, 10 August 2007 (PDT)
  • Ipulele, mixture between ipu (melon in Hawaiian) and ukelele. Daedalus Young 14:23, 9 September 2007 (PDT)
(there was an oficial one on your tube, but it wasn't playing right near the end, this one has some artifacts in the beggining but then it starts to flow well tot he end) TigroSpottystripes Katsu 05:34, 16 September 2007 (PDT)
edit:balls, they removed the one I linked first, I changed the link to point to one that don't seem to be going to be deleted (but I'm afraid it is the one that had bugged ending :/ --TigroSpottystripes Katsu 18:49, 17 September 2007 (PDT)
Tru dat! Just wanted to say thanx for continually contributing to this page over the year. I am rich in watermelon goodness, and very appreciative for it. --Torley Linden 09:45, 11 December 2007 (PST)
  • Disco Dancing - Drawing a friend of mine made :) Daedalus Young 14:10, 23 December 2007 (PST)
    • Thanx for sharing Daed, and Happy Holidays! Your friend's art would look fab as a sleek vector T-shirt design. I wonder if she's ever done some before? I browsed through her gallery and she sure has a unique penchant for braided hair! --Torley Linden 17:00, 23 December 2007 (PST)
  • Wow. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2008-03-24 @ 11:39 AM PST
Then I could fulfill my very own Mothman Prophecies! - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2008-10-27 @ 6:01 AM PST

re:Wacom Intuos3 6x8

How much does it cost to get one of these ?

I'm stuck with a rather cheap-ass graphics tablet at the moment- this is the second one of the same model I've had, due to problems with the first generation model being even more cheap-ass than this one. But as you've seen it still plays nice with ArtRage 2 :-)

SignpostMarv Martin 08:04, 29 January 2007 (PST)

P.S. I'm suspecting you might've got it cheaper from elsewhere, since manufacturers tend to list padded prices.

Mine was 'round CAD$350 and I got it from NCIX. Wacom seems to have quite the hold on graphics tablets — I appreciate their elegance but also wish there was more diversity. I wonder what other alternatives are more affordable but... not cheap in the quality-lacking sense.
--Torley Linden 12:56, 30 January 2007 (PST)
Mine cost GBP£25.
It works, but the graphics pen is rather fragile, and breaks easily. The coating on the pen tends to rub off, and the coating on the first edition of the tablet itself suffered from the same issue.
SignpostMarv Martin 08:30, 31 January 2007 (PST)
What make and model is it?
--Torley Linden 10:26, 31 January 2007 (PST)
P-Active XP-5550A, although the catalogue I bought mine from (Argos) doesn't appear to be stocking them any more.
SignpostMarv Martin 11:15, 31 January 2007 (PST)
BTW, when I say it's fragile, the barrel buttons no longer work, making it a pain in the ass to do anything that requires both right and left clicking.
SignpostMarv Martin 08:10, 3 February 2007 (PST)

RE: My united states of whatever... ok i just need sleep

A clever soul suggested (by forum PM) an official FAQ on SL and Vista. I wouldn't imagine it would have to be long just answer a few of the more basic questions that get asked (like: why won't it run, when will it run, and why does it turn the bread on top of my CPU into burnt smoldering bread when in XP it only made toast (it has ruined my breakfast habits)). Said I would pass it along. I did sticky a thread in the RA forum though. In retrospect might have been better to PM; opps. Strife Onizuka 21:03, 31 January 2007 (PST)

Hey Strife, thanks — please ensure that future support-related suggestions go through the Knowledge Base Request page so we can keep track of them. You can show said clever soul my reply here if ye wisheth. Re: Vista, I've asked our Quality Assurance dept.; there are some Lindens like Lawrence and Milo who've had considerable experience. I haven't used Vista yet, but eventually, we'll be updating the KB and System Requirements page.
--Torley Linden 11:30, 1 February 2007 (PST)

re: Category:Linden Community Managers

Any chance you could fill the info in here Torley ?
SignpostMarv Martin 07:21, 17 January 2007 (PST)

Hey Marv — I'd like to get more dedicated wiki-editing time in but I've been swamped... when am I not? ;) Seriously though, I super-appreciate your initiative and oodles of contributions here. I've shared the idea with my fellow Community Developers ("Manager" = old terminology) about getting more info about us and Lindens in general into the wiki. It'd be nice to have a more comprehensive "Who Does What".
Torley Linden 10:55, 25 January 2007 (PST)
Heh. I'll get the manager > developer terminology thing updated at a later date. Hope you don't mind, but I've tweaked the talk page layout to be in keeping with the format exhibited in the Wikipedia.
SignpostMarv Martin 08:02, 29 January 2007 (PST)
I'm learning the ropes here, this is all good to know. I'm cool with it! But dang, I crave my WYSIWYG.
--Torley Linden 12:56, 30 January 2007 (PST)

GCal

Please direct your attention to Talk:Office Hours#Google Calendar

SignpostMarv Martin 12:04, 11 December 2007 (PST)

Are you..

Are you gay? 'cos i see all the pink on your userpage and I just turn all warm and fuzzy inside.. --Felixe Thorne 11:40, 8 February 2008 (PST)

I'm definitely gay in a happy way. But don't forget the green and black, and sometimes yellow. ;) But srsly, in First Life I'm committed to a lovely lady.--Torley

LLQuaternion

I know you don't deal with this, but I don't know who to bug.

Could you possibly ask whoever deals with the Second Life Protocol to update this page to reflect how an LLQuaternion is represented now. When the client sends an "AgentUpdate" request, it sends 12 bytes not 16, as an LLQuaternion should be. Thanks, --Felixe Thorne 11:56, 8 February 2008 (PST)

I'd suggest asking on SLDev. :)--Torley

*cough*

He's back as Special:Contributions/Jumpman_Landau (changes to User:Jumpman_Lane). You even made his enemies list. I think though I'll remain incognito on this one. -- Burnt Page 00:14, 13 May 2008 (PDT)

Thanks for the heads-up! Vandalizing the wiki and using it to air personal grievances is, of course, inappropriate. I'll let our GTeam and Rob Linden know. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2008-05-15 @ 8:45 AM PST

A PJira Issue that may interest you, and that you may wanna do yourself : )

I submitted http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8333 and it's all about you! Well all about you and the amazing Residents! : D

Meghan Dench 15:12, 2 August 2008 (PDT)

A prim, a prim, my kingdom for a prim

You might want to check on this...
https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Limits&curid=14330&diff=321712&oldid=304593
I'm wondering if this change was intentional.
-- Strife (talk|contribs) 03:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

it's in the release notes and everything. We are on E-Zee-Street with this prim windfall! --Cerise Sorbet 11:12, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Fix linking of >255 prim objects. Linking should work for 256 prims, fail for >256 prims. (Previously failed to link 1 prim to a 255-prim linkset.)

Hay thanks for the heads-up! Appreciate the update. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-04-17 @ 9:52 AM PST
Since it's in the release notes, I'll insert foot in mouth. -- Strife (talk|contribs) 18:43, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Decentralized Moderation

I got a PM on the forums with this link. Looks very interesting. http://scobleizer.com/2009/04/20/decentralized-moderation-is-the-chat-room-savior/ -- Strife (talk|contribs) 14:50, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry...

... to drag you back into the problem that is the forums but this requires action. I don't know where the line is for TOS 4.1.iv but it has been crossed and the TOS shat on. I have split the offending posts from the parent thread. Here is a thread containing my incoming PM record from the last two weeks: [2]. Here are the threads where I dumped the offending posts: [3] [4]. Be advised you might be sick after viewing... or just downright angry at the LL's forum mod for being asleep at the switch. -- Strife (talk|contribs) 14:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for continuing to care — you already reported this and so did the complainant? I'll ask our RESI Team gurus what to do, we've recently been improving policy re: inworld abuse and the blogs, and the forums came up in discussion too. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-04-23 @ 7:40 AM PST
I haven't checked my email but I've heard anecdotally that ARs were filed. I believe it. I'm told (by one of the suppose alts) they are an acquired taste. It's folks like this who make people loose faith in the AR system. Thanks for prodding the appropriate folks about this. I really didn't want to have to do this. :-/ -- Strife (talk|contribs) 22:36, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
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