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This is the meeting tracking and progress page for the weekly Server BETA QA Meeting, moderated by Oskar Linden. Please contact him on AGNI for more information. You can join the '''Second Life Beta''' group for updates.
This is the meeting tracking and progress page for the weekly Server BETA QA Meeting, moderated by Oskar Linden. Please contact him on AGNI for more information. You can join the '''Second Life Beta''' group for updates.


'''The next meeting is Thursday, August 2, 2012, 3PM PDT at {{SLurl|region=Morris|x=210|y=250|z=35|title=Morris}} on the preview grid, [[Preview_Grid | ADITI]].'''
'''The next meeting is Thursday, August 9, 2012, 3PM PDT at {{SLurl|region=Morris|x=210|y=250|z=35|title=Morris}} on the preview grid, [[Preview_Grid | ADITI]].'''


* Join the email list - sign up here: https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/server-beta
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Revision as of 14:55, 9 August 2012

This is the meeting tracking and progress page for the weekly Server BETA QA Meeting, moderated by Oskar Linden. Please contact him on AGNI for more information. You can join the Second Life Beta group for updates.

The next meeting is Thursday, August 9, 2012, 3PM PDT at Morris🖈 on the preview grid, ADITI.


Agenda

Updates

  • Second Life Server Channel
  • This has the Pathfinding project now.
  • This is the Pathfinding Project yet again.
  • Features and Changes
    • Havok's AI library has been added so that navigation meta data for an entire region can be computed. This data is called the "navmesh".
    • SL objects can be turned into "characters" which use the navmesh to navigate the world and avoid obstacles.
      • New LSL calls have been added to create/update/delete character behavior.
      • Characters cannot be used as attachments.
      • Characters are incompatible with some features, such as keyframed motion, being used as attachments, phantom, size changes, and others.
    • Not all objects in the world contribute to the navmesh calculations.
      • The terrain always contributes
      • By default objects are ignored for the navmesh calculations.
      • Objects may be flagged to modify the navmesh calculations in one of 4 ways:
        • "Walkable" objects add navigable zones to the navmesh.
        • "Static Obstacle" objects cannot be navigated, and create a hole in the nav mesh
        • "Exclusion Volume" objects are like static obstacles, except that they are phantom (meaning that pathfinding characters cannot move through them but other physical objects and avatars can)
        • "Material Volume" objects are phantom objects that can be set to change the walkability coefficients of an area of the navmesh
        • Material volumes and walkable objects have 4 walkability coefficients to determine how expensive they are for each category of character
      • Objects that contribute to the navmesh have special restrictions:
        • Objects that contribute to the navmesh cannot change their physical shape via LSL script (changing object position, shape parameters, scale, rotation, physics shape type, and linking/unlinking is generally blocked)
        • Objects that contribute to the navmesh can be physically changed via the build tool by avatars who have modify permission and if the avatar is in the same region as the object.
        • In other words: objects that contribute to the navmesh cannot be physically changed by avatars who are located in a different region than the object, and therefore such objects cannot be moved across region boundaries.
      • When the navmesh has been modified, either because the terrain has been edited or because an object contributing to the nav mesh was rezzed/modified/deleted, it must be manually regenerated.
      • The pathfinding project viewer can be used to modify the pathfinding settings in a region: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Alternate_Viewers#Pathfinding
      • Parcels that are set No-Entry for objects will cut the navmesh at their borders -- characters will not be able to navigate across it.
    • The collision pipeline has been reorganized. This may affect avatar collisions/control, vehicle movement, and collision callbacks in LSL scripts.
    • The terrain collision shape has been changed from a "heightfield" to a "mesh" to provide more efficient collisions, ray-trace, and navmesh computations.
      • This may change some collision details. In particular see the "Known Issues" list below.
      • When changing the terrain its visible appearance will update immediately, but its collision shape will not.
      • The server will wait at least 10 seconds since the last change before computing the new shape, and the computation time may take several seconds.
      • Where there is a discrepancy between visible and colliding terrain shapes object and avatar collisions may appear incorrect.
    • Fix for PATHBUG-77 "llCastRay returns RCERR_CAST_TIME_EXCEEDED until the sim is rebooted"
    • Avatars which are sitting on an object can no longer freeze it by selecting it, if they don't have permission to freeze it while standing.
    • More details about pathfinding can be found at http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Pathfinding and its linked pages
  • Changed prim accounting for legacy prims which use the new accounting system
    • All legacy-style prims have their streaming cost capped at 1.0 (except for sculpts, which will be capped at 2.0). This provides the benefit of not penalizing prim-based creators for optimizing their content by opting into the new system and will make the streaming cost more reflective of the true network cost of the objects.
    • Server cost will be adjusted to MIN{ (0.5*num_prims) + (0.25 * num_scripts), num_prims }. This preserves the current value for unscripted linksets and reduce the cost for linksets containing fewer than 2*num_prims scripts. It provides the benefit of rewarding creators for reducing the number of scripts in their objects.
  • Fixed the following bugs since the 12.06.23.260473 Pathfinding RC


  • BlueSteel RC Channel
  • This is an maint-server project.
  • Bug Fixes
    • VWR-5044: Attachments only change/inherit the active group when they're "rezzed
    • VWR-25762: group owned objects appear as owned by (nobody) in Top Scripts and Top Colliders
    • VWR-20320: Show in search and set for sale remain enabled after owner changed
    • SVC-7760: Large object instant messages can corrupt returned object location URL making it impossible to determine the object's location.
    • STORM-1840: Searching legacy names in the "Choose Resident" floater with a period returns no result
    • SVC-7525: Selected objects move when a new keyframe motion is started
    • SVC-7793: Scripted agents can't abandon land on private estates
    • SVC-7917: Please automatically unmute avatars who have muted themselves, and prevent this from occuring server-side.
    • SVC-7968: When TPing using a landmark the server sends two TeleportStart packets
    • SCR-247: Scripts created by Residents who are limited to only the General maturity rating do not function as expected when inside an object that the scripter created that is running in a Moderate or Adult region
    • SCR-318: llInsertString & llSubStringIndex support for 4 bytes characters broken since 12.02.06.248938
    • SCR-359: The http_request() event fails to trigger in child prims that do not use llHTTPResponse() after it has received 64 HTTP requests and will not trigger again even if the script is reset.
    • https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_BlueSteel/12#12.08.03.263047




Upcoming Stuff

Interesting Stuff

Any Other Items

Open Items

  • SVC-4632 - People getting past Estate and Land bans | Critical & 325 (402 as of 8/11/10) votes!
    • Dante has commented on this issue and reopened it.
  • SVC-5925 - Erratic behavior on script rezzed prims set physical
  • SVC-3044 - Debug channel and script error reporting needs a major rethink
    • related to vwr-199 and vwr-7062
    • [15:17] Roberto Salubrius: can we get that standarized pleaaaaaaaaaaaseeeeeeeeee so we can listen to the debug channel whenever there's a problem PLEAAAAAAAAAASEEEEEEE
    • [15:17] Roberto Salubrius: preeeeeeeetty pleaaseeeeee
  • svc-4196 - "Avatar entering sim or rezzing object causes sim to freeze for up to 30 seconds - everything stops for everybody there"
  • wassup with SVC-3895
  • status on SVC-3618 - estate managers unable to freeze / eject
  • status on SVC-1253 - users sitting on prims, which are set to phantom are not affected by damage. | 108 votes!
  • status on SVC-5404 - Vehicles can no longer enter a region if no-object-entry flag is set
  • What is going on with SVC-421 - Cannot delete contents from no-modify objects
  • status on SVC-5880 - Vehicles "Jumping" when crossing prims
  • SVC-5922 -Physics unset on vehicles when seated avatars goes beyond the physical 'prim' limit where agents are counted towards prims
  • SVC-6104 script sim crossing bug
  • SVC-6123 cant catch sphere type exact shape with lsl functions
  • What is the story on the bug that allows the Meeroos food vending scam? Nalates U
  • At what point do you want me document functions that appear here or in the RC release notes? (I won't be attending the meeting but I'll review the transcript) -- Strife (talk|contribs) 12:29, 11 January 2012 (PST)
  • Pathfinding characters got no proper character animation toolkit. Capabilities are limited to sliding bricks, or R2-D2 from "Star Wars" on it's best. If anybody is going to make a decent animation parser from well known animation formats like BVH - its not going to be open sourced, because it requires quite a bit of work on LSL (I'm already half way there). I know that some time people will just get fed up with it and beg Lindens for official tools with proper prim hierarchical rigged character animation capabilites done by SL's animation assets only on viewer side. Whats the loose ETA (year or half precision) on those tools considering that lots of stuff still broken and needs debugging? Come on guys, just say a number on your mind without any promises c: (FadeOut Razorfen)

Minutes from Previous Meetings

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